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Rikae 10-14-2006 12:01 PM

We have a 20% chance of guessing right:

Menel
Volo
Rikae
Eonwe
Gil-Galad

If Mac dreams about 2, and Kitanna dreams about a third, we have a 50% chance as he explained.

I think you should pair up people who are as different as possible to give you something to go on (in experience, frequency of posting, etc.)

More participation::
Volo
Rikae
Menel

Less participation:
Eonwe
Gil-Galad



So if Mac dreams about one person from each group and gets no connection, we'll have a choice between a more vocal player and an under-the-radar type. If Mac dreams of Eonwe and Gil and finds no connection, choosing between them will be a shot in the dark - if he dreams of me and Eonwe, or Volo and Gil, we'll at least have one vocal player to analyse for strange behavior. If Naria knows who Kitanna is dreaming about, she won't attack that person, since it would mean certain detection. Therefore, it might be best for Mac to say who he intends to dream about, and Kitanna to dream about one of the remaining three without saying who beforehand.

EDIT: Xed with Volo, Mac & Kitanna

Volo 10-14-2006 12:05 PM

:/ Yea Kit, that's the point, you know, bluff.

Rikae 10-14-2006 12:07 PM

Volo:

She can't, because then Mac might dream of the same person and waste a dream. They can't PM each other.

EDIT: MY natural WW skills? Thank you Volo, but now I know you're a wolf, because of your lying flattery! ;)

Volo 10-14-2006 12:11 PM

Kit can, Mac can't.

Quote:

Therefore, it might be best for Mac to say who he intends to dream about, and Kitanna to dream about one of the remaining three without saying who beforehand.
I hope I don't spoil a bluff now myself.

(I'll be quiet now. (I hope)

Macalaure 10-14-2006 12:16 PM

Good idea, Rikae, though I still think it'll remain a 50:50 shot into the dark.

So Kitanna should dream of one of the two silent ones, and I dream of two out of the three vocal ones.

Meneltarmacil 10-14-2006 12:38 PM

I'll be goin' with Kitanna fer now and lynchin' JennyHallu toDay.

Other than that, the last Thing be either Volo, Eonwe, Gil-Galad, Rikae, or yours truly. I can probably eliminate Rikae due to her goin' along with a plan that ought to get all the things lynched. And I can definitely eliminate meself since I know I be innocent, but I doubt ye'll be takin' me word for it.

Anyhow, that be leavin' us with Volo, Eonwe, and Gil-Galad. A double lynchin' not bein' a good thing with three major suspects, it be best to wait 'till next morn.

As fer now, this sea dog be votin' fer:

++JennyHallu

Gil-Galad 10-14-2006 01:39 PM

oh hey...that worked out pretty well, though i'm afraid that the Thing, being in a corner, will jump from innocent to innocent to hopefully kill us off as much as possible, though i doubt the thing will jump to me because i have a 65% chance of turning the tides and getting myself lynched.

++JennyThingu

Macalaure 10-14-2006 02:28 PM

I hoped to hear from Jenny and Naria before I voted, but since you all already did:

++JennyHallu

Rikae 10-14-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macalaure
Good idea, Rikae, though I still think it'll remain a 50:50 shot into the dark.

So Kitanna should dream of one of the two silent ones, and I dream of two out of the three vocal ones.

Don't you think it would be better if you dream of one vocal one, and one quiet, so if you get a connection and Kit gets an innocent on the third vocal one, we won't be left choosing between two quiet ones?

Rikae 10-14-2006 03:11 PM

Oh, wait, scratch that. Your plan is good.

Naria 10-14-2006 06:19 PM

Well, anyone up for a riveting game of hopscotch? Orrrr how 'bout freeze tag?! I'll pick the Hermit you're it....GO!!! *Naria runs frantically in circles trying to get away from a yawning Kit*

Naria 10-14-2006 06:23 PM

Oh yeah, btw I think that all of your ideas will work out Fabtansically. And Mac I am glad that you decided to come out...good on ya :p hehe

Naria 10-14-2006 06:29 PM

OH OH I got one!! Let's play the humming game...I'll hum a tune and you guys try to figure out what the song is k, here it goes

Hummmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmeeeemmmma, me-so-fa-la-do-re-



*suddenly Naria breaks into song* Doe a dear a female dear, ray a flock of golden sun, me a name I call myself, ra a long long way to run *then as suddenly as it started she losses her concentration and goes to smell a flower*

Meneltarmacil 10-14-2006 07:07 PM

<---Maybe it be a good idea to lay off this stuff for a while...Arr, but maybe not.
 
Hmm, Naria. I quite forgot about ye, lass. That makes four possible Things, now.

But anyway, singin' be a good idea, not that it'll help much...

(Drink up, me hearties, yo ho! Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me...)

Unless ye be intending some kind of silly message in that post of yours...

Rikae 10-14-2006 07:11 PM

Menel, IF Kitanna isn't bluffing and Jenny is a thing, the last thing will die tonight & the new thing could be anyone at all, out of the remaining seven.

Rikae 10-14-2006 07:15 PM

Hey, there are nine of us. Good number.

I'm Pippin. Jenny ought to be Boromir...Kit has been Aragornish, nonrangerness aside...

Meneltarmacil 10-14-2006 07:27 PM

The Thing very well could be the same person, though, as it would be wise for it to kill the Seer or the Weaver toMorrow. If not, then it could well be anyone, even me.

But if it did that, it be givin' the Gifteds another shot at it, most unwise...

Rikae 10-14-2006 07:40 PM

Note to self:
"Fool of a Took! This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!"

JennyHallu 10-14-2006 08:27 PM

Boromir? Thanks a lot.

Yes I'm a Thing. And I hope you all die horrible deaths...and yet, and yet, I highly doubt that's going to happen.
My unknown partner: KILL KILL KILL!!!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!

And I am definitely going to have some questions once we're all done.

Rikae 10-14-2006 08:46 PM

Aw, be whomever you like, since you only have an hour to live and all...:D

Valier 10-14-2006 10:19 PM

The day dragged on, but there was no doubt who was to die. JennyHallu was a Thing and most of the villagers were sure Naria was her companion.

" I say enough with all the waiting, lets kill her now!" shouted Kitanna. cries of agreement all around and one loud "NAAA!!!" from Naria in the back. "I hope you all die horrible deaths!!" shrieked Jenny as she began to back up towards the road to the village. "There is no way you are getting away with this! I know who you are, for I am the Seer!"

Kitanna the Hermit picked up the nearest object, which just happened to be a very large piece of wood and advanced upon Jenny. "This is where you die!!!" she shouted as she charged towards the Thing with club raised high. Kitanna bravely struck Jenny with one hard blow to her forehead, when something began to happen.... Jenny began to look slightly odd....

Without warning someThing burst out of Jenny's chest and landed on the ground with a splat. The now empty body of JennyHallu slumped to the ground.

Naria moved through the small crowd and trying to be as discreet as possible, she beckoned to the worm-like Thing to come to her. Macalaure stepped forward and looked at Naria with a smile..."I don't think so" he said as he brought his foot down on the slithering Thing.

Naria let out a loud cry and looked wildly around, she gave a look of pure evil then took off in a sprint towards her house.



Dead villagers

Valier- Milkmaid- Killed by Thing- Mod Night1
Thinlomien-Blind gardener maid-Pulled apart by horses on Day1- Innocent
Folwren-Jack the blacksmith-face mangled on night2-Innocent
Glirdan-Town musician-Killed himself on Day2 (due to RL busyness)-Innocent
Nogrod-Goatherder-Decapitated on Day2-Thing
Rune- Weaver (not real one)- Chest ripped open on night3- innocent

Briseis- Seamstress- Slashed her own wrists on night3 (by choice)-Innocent
JennyHallu- Prophetess- Killed by Kitanna & Mac on Day3- Thing




Live villagers

Gil-Galad- Friendly neighborhood window cleaner
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Naria- Herbalist
Rikae- Cheesemaker
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate
Eonwe- Miller




Night4 has now begun. You have 24 hours.

Thing send me your pick, Seer and Weaver, dream away.

Valier 10-15-2006 09:56 PM

The fourth night passed with not a sound. Everything was silent. The sun rise was spectacular, as always, but the villagers were dreading this day. What would happen? Who was the Thing? Every villager crept out into the open. What they had all suspected would happen, had. Naria was no where to be seen. Upon entering her herbal shop they noted that all the furniture had been moved against the walls. There in the large cleared space lay Naria. her body positioned perfectly inside a chalk outline that she had obviously drawn herself. "Well isn't that great." remarked Macalaure. The day would be a long and cold one that was for sure.


Dead villagers
Valier- Milkmaid- Killed by Thing- Mod Night1
Thinlomien-Blind gardener maid-Pulled apart by horses on Day1- Innocent
Folwren-Jack the blacksmith-face mangled on night2-Innocent
Glirdan-Town musician-Killed himself on Day2 (due to RL busyness)-Innocent
Nogrod-Goatherder-Decapitated on Day2-Thing
Rune- Weaver (not real one)- Chest ripped open on night3- innocent
Briseis- Seamstress- Slashed her own wrists on night3 (by choice)-Innocent
JennyHallu- Prophetess- Killed by Kitanna & Mac on Day3- Thing
Naria- Herbalist- Dead body found on floor night4- Innocent



Live villagers

Gil-Galad- Friendly neighborhood window cleaner
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Rikae- Cheesemaker
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate
Eonwe- Miller


Day 4 has now begun. You have 24 hours. You may start posting. :)

Rikae 10-15-2006 10:30 PM

We win! Now it's certain...either we lynch the thing today, or tomorrow the thing will be one of three villagers, all of whom can be guarded.
So who did you dream about, O gifted ones?

Kitanna 10-15-2006 10:59 PM

I dreamt of Gil-Galad and he's innocent.

Macalaure 10-16-2006 03:26 AM

I dreamt of Rikae and Volo and there is a connection between the two.

Therefore it's either Menel or Eonwe.

I'm looking forward to some desperate defenses. :D

Rikae 10-16-2006 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macalaure
I'm looking forward to some desperate defenses. :D

:D *rubs hands together and grins wickedly*

Macalaure 10-16-2006 07:10 AM

If we pick the wrong one today both Menel and Eonwe are dead tomorrow and, as Rikae said, we have three people left who can be a thing. If Kitanna dreams of A, and I dream of the connection between A and B, we can pin it down for certain.

If A is guilty we have it.
If A is innocent and B is different from A, B is guilty.
If A is innocent and B is the same as A, C is guilty.

By the blessings of symbolic logics, we can no longer lose. :)

Volo 10-16-2006 07:15 AM

I'd be happy if this ended here, I'm not sure if I can post after Wednesday... Nothing is going to happen now anyway, thanks to the work of our seer and weaver, we won on day 2.

Meneltarmacil 10-16-2006 07:33 AM

Arr, well Eonwe be the Thing then, since it certainly isn't me, but then again you can't prove I'm not a Thing either and Eonwe'll just say the same about me, so I be afraid toDay's vote be totally random. As the only likely suspect be Eonwe, I'm going to have to vote for him.

++Eonwe

Volo 10-16-2006 07:42 AM

We don't want it to be random. Start spamming this thread with reasons why we should vote Eonwe :p

Meneltarmacil 10-16-2006 07:51 AM

Because he be a filthy, scurvy, bilge rat! Arrrr!

Seriously, Volo what be the point of that? He'll just be spammin' the thread with reasons to vote me as well, and since neither of us were Things yesterDay, there be nothin' to go on anyhow.

Volo 10-16-2006 07:52 AM

Well, I'll vote the one, who has the "better" reasons :D So start making them. (or then I'm just bored... :rolleyes: )

Gil-Galad 10-16-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitanna
I dreamt of Gil-Galad and he's innocent.

if i survive to the end, i'm buying you a pizza Kitanna

also, just to note, if we do not catch the thing this day, i might be next to be inhabited seeing how Kitanna's announcement of my innocence might be enough cover to save the thing for awhile. a say these weaknesses mainly to repel the thing from latching on to little ol' moi.

Rikae 10-16-2006 11:18 AM

Well, I think Menel is right - it is random, and we've already won in any event. Still, as Volo says, it's more interesting if we have reasons, however pointless it may be.
So I'm waiting to hear them, too.

Volo 10-16-2006 01:08 PM

++Eonwe, Menel talks more... :rolleyes:

Rikae 10-16-2006 02:01 PM

++Eonwe, same reason as Volo.

Kitanna 10-16-2006 02:09 PM

Obviously the Thing wouldn't know who would be dreamt of, but...

Why would the Thing pick Menel:
Talks more, would be able to come on and defend himself from Eonwe. Already under suspicion, though not a lot and mostly from me ( :rolleyes: ), but has gotten over that suspicion.

Why would the Thing pick Eonwe:
Quiet, has flown far under everyone's radar so far. Not much for us to go on, has left very few clues and the Thing would have recognized that and kept it in mind when choosing who to pick last night.

Volo 10-16-2006 02:13 PM

So what do you suggest?

Macalaure 10-16-2006 03:20 PM

Thing Empathy
 
What was Naria thinking this night?

I don't think that past suspicions or links meant anything to her, because we now all know that the suspicions were wrong and the links were innocent ones.

Did she choose Menel, who might be able to talk himself out of suspicion?
Did she choose Eonwe, who is more likely to never attract the suspicion in first place?

Dunno...


Does anybody else share the opinion that the game is steering towards being a farce? I mean, the village wins! Unless we make some kind of incredible fault, it is settled. But today we have to do lucky guessing and if we're not lucky, we still have to wait two more (RL-)days until it's official. I don't know...
Maybe the thing should just admit its thingdom so the game ends when it's still interesting. I'm not too motivated to play another (WW-)day where there's no actual "werewolfing".

Don't get me wrong, Valier, the game has been great and the new rules and dynamics were most interesting!
But somehow it's already over now... :(

Macalaure 10-16-2006 04:10 PM

++Meneltarmacil

just to keep it close :D


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