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Urwen 03-27-2019 02:14 PM

Legolas?

Pervinca Took 03-27-2019 02:22 PM

No to Legolas. Nice idea, though. I suppose he'd have dwindled eventually had he not sailed west.

Pasting it here because we are on a new page:

Unhappy once, I now am blessed.
Whate'er you think, I do not jest!
Since friendship is a gift divine
I dwindle, but I do not pine.

Urwen 03-27-2019 02:30 PM

Treebeard?

Pervinca Took 03-27-2019 02:50 PM

No.

Urwen 03-28-2019 03:40 AM

Frodo?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 03:51 AM

Nope.

A nice thought, though, (apart from the dwindling).

Urwen 03-28-2019 04:05 AM

What does 'dwindle' mean in this context? Someone who lingers behind or someone who withers?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 04:52 AM

That's for you to work out. :D

I will say, though, that it is not an elvish kind of dwindling, and the answer, too, is not an elf.

Look at the dictionary definition of 'dwindling.' I have used it quite literally.

Urwen 03-28-2019 04:57 AM

If we go by dictionary definition of dwindling, then it's 'I will diminish and go to the West' Nerwen

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 04:59 AM

Nope.

Not an elf. (See my notes, above).

Urwen 03-28-2019 05:01 AM

Theoden?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 05:06 AM

Not a man either.

Urwen 03-28-2019 05:09 AM

Gollum?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 05:12 AM

No.

I suppose he kind of finds a friend in Frodo, but he doesn't stop pining for the Ring, and I don't think he becomes fully happy. Maybe in the last few seconds of his life?

Urwen 03-28-2019 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714237)
No.

I suppose he kind of finds a friend in Frodo, but he doesn't stop pining for the Ring, and I don't think he becomes fully happy. Maybe in the last few seconds of his life?


I was talking about his friendship with Deagol, actually.


Anyway, Bilbo?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 05:28 AM

Well, he wasn't dwindling at that point.

Not Bilbo either.

Urwen 03-28-2019 05:44 AM

Sam?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 05:59 AM

No.

There is a hobbit connection, but the answer is not a hobbit.

Urwen 03-28-2019 06:23 AM

I assume it's an object then.


The One Ring?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 06:54 AM

No. It's living.

Urwen 03-28-2019 07:11 AM

Bill the Pony?

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 08:15 AM

No.

Urwen 03-28-2019 08:31 AM

Well, nothing else is coming to me, and that drives me crazy.

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 09:06 AM

Let's give it a bit longer, until our friends over the pond are awake and have had a chance. Then I'll give another hint.

There's always the password thread!

Galadriel55 03-28-2019 11:33 AM

Not an Elf, not a Man, not a Hobbit, but living. Tom Bombadil! Though I'm not sure he was ever unhappy.

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 11:42 AM

Big hint now for everyone: think POETRY.

Which is perhaps a good reason *not* to think of Bombadil, (who is not the answer). :D

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 12:14 PM

And because it's now quite far up the page:

Unhappy once, I now am blessed.
Whate'er you think, I do not jest!
Since friendship is a gift divine
I dwindle, but I do not pine.

Urwen 03-28-2019 01:06 PM

As in, Tolkien poems? There are a lot of those......

Urwen 03-28-2019 01:14 PM

Eureka! It's the Troll!


Quote:

and smaller the old Troll seemed to be,
as he grew more and more.

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 04:40 PM

Perfect - that's the exact quotation I was thinking of, too!

It's the troll from 'Perry-the-Winkle.'

The hobbit connection is the hobbits in the poem, and the fact that Bilbo probably wrote it, (I think). (Although thinking about it, it mentions the Lockholes, which I am not sure existed as such before around the Scouring, so maybe Sam wrote it?)

I said a 'living thing,' although I suppose the characters in the poem are fictions *within* Tolkien's fiction. ;)

Urwen 03-28-2019 05:28 PM

Here's a little ditty I made up on the spot



Now we ride into the battle
And into the red morn
Our armors clink and rattle
Followed by sound of the horn

We wouldn't listen to their warning
For this is our choice to make
And with the dawn of the morning
This is the path we'll take

A creature of darkness stands in our path
He's tall and he brings fear
Large is his wrath
But it'll all end right here

We'll hold our own
And follow the words of old
We'll bring the enemy down
As the prophecy foretold

Pervinca Took 03-28-2019 05:53 PM

The Rohirrim, and the prophecy regarding the Witch-King?

Urwen 03-28-2019 06:10 PM

Close, but not that. It's, shall I say, more selective than that.

Huinesoron 03-29-2019 03:42 AM

Eowyn and Merry specifically, during the Pelennor? They were both warned against going to war, but chose to do so anyway, and it was their actions that destroyed the Witch-King.

hS

Urwen 03-29-2019 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714261)
Eowyn and Merry specifically, during the Pelennor? They were both warned against going to war, but chose to do so anyway, and it was their actions that destroyed the Witch-King.

hS


Perfect. ^^

Huinesoron 03-29-2019 08:02 AM

Quote:

I am Gold.
I take what I want, looking ever higher:
From the centre
To the east
Even to the west.
In the end I claim my desire, and am forgotten.
I am Gold.

I am Bejewelled.
I stride the decks, secure in my pride.
I claim blood
For my blood;
In blood I fall.
In the end my heirs are lesser and greater than I.
I am Bejewelled.

I am Wolf.
I claim a hand; I claim a throne.
I am denied,
I return,
I rule the winter long.
In the end I fall, avenging son slain by avenging son.
I am Wolf.
You may find multiple characters along the way, but the answer to the riddle is one word that links the three verses together.

hS

Pervinca Took 03-29-2019 08:19 AM

I wonder if Bejewelled is Ar-Pharazon and Wolf is Carcharoth.

Huinesoron 03-29-2019 08:33 AM

No and no. Ar-Pharazon had no heirs, and... actually Carcharoth would work quite well for the Wolf text if 'avenging son' was metaphorical, but it's not him. :)

hS

Urwen 03-29-2019 10:08 AM

Gold=Maglor?


And if I am right about the other two, then the riddle answer is Silmaril.

Huinesoron 03-29-2019 10:18 AM

Not Maglor or Silmaril in this case. :)

hS


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