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LordPhillock 03-15-2014 12:44 PM

I fully appreciate your own willingness, indeed! :)

Nerwen 03-26-2014 07:08 PM

Nice riffing!:smokin:

Lotrelf 03-30-2014 02:13 AM

And people still defend PJ's films. That's all I can say.

LordPhillock 03-31-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 690341)
Nice riffing!:smokin:

hooray, someone actually looked at it! I'm glad you liked it :smokin:

Zigûr 10-20-2014 09:11 AM

I know no one's posted in this thread recently but I didn't think this was worth starting a new one for.

Supposedly it's revealed on the Extended Edition Blu-Ray (in the bonus material I suppose) that that ludicrous scene in this film where Smaug was chasing the Dwarves all around Erebor was one of the things added in after they'd shot the original two films when they decided to pad it out to three.

No wonder it feels so tacked on and the ending is such a cop-out (Smaug leaves to attack Lake-Town for no discernible reason when he could have deep-fried the majority of Thorin and Company right then and there).

What really astounds me, however, is something that struck me when watching 'An Unexpected Journey' too. This film went for two hours and forty-one minutes. They can't have filmed that much extra material after the three-part decision was made. That would mean that even before the 'trilogy' decision, they probably had enough material to make three films anyway, probably one and a half to two hours each. But no, they're the successors to Peter Jacksons 'The Lord of the Rings,' so they have to go for nearly three hours each because that's just how long a 'Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings film' has to go for. Obviously shorter films would make it harder to justify a trilogy as well, even if they actually already had enough material. So that's how we ended up with all this filler. The original excuse, that they had so much anyway that they thought it was better to make three films rather than two, surely doesn't hold up when it's outright stated that turning it into a trilogy wasn't about saving material from the cutting room floor but actually involved producing more padding to artificially extend the runtime.

I think this is what Baudrillard called Pure Simulation.

Legate of Amon Lanc 10-22-2014 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigûr (Post 695086)
I think this is what Baudrillard called Pure Simulation.

And it's also what PJ would call Pure Silmarillion. (Let's hope we never see that day...)

Zigûr 10-23-2014 11:58 PM

I see the new one is bearing the tagline 'The Defining Chapter.'

What were the other chapters then? Indefinite?

IxnaY AintsaY 10-24-2014 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigûr (Post 695135)
I see the new one is bearing the tagline 'The Defining Chapter.'

What were the other chapters then? Indefinite?

They sure felt nearly indefinite.

Galadriel55 10-24-2014 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigûr (Post 695135)
I see the new one is bearing the tagline 'The Defining Chapter.'

Ah, so they finally admit that they're really going at a rate of a chapter a film. :p

Smug the Fabulous 10-26-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 695141)
Ah, so they finally admit that they're really going at a rate of a chapter a film. :p

I can imagine in another world, there's a Peter Jackson who is mad enough to make a three-hour movie out of each of The Hobbit's 19 chapters.

tom the eldest 10-28-2014 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin (Post 688247)
Thanks to Aganzir review. I was leaning towards not wasting time on Hobbit Ii and III after seeing the awful Hobbit I. PJ continues his devolution.
I actually gave FotR, upon reflection, an A- (despite some silly and unnecessary changes/omissions), TTT a C+, RotK a C-, Hobbit Part I an F. Hobbit actually wasn't awful until up until the trolls, then PJ got sillier and sillier. Instead of a believable book tale of Gandalf turning lights out, slaying the Great Goblin, and being a reguard with Thorin for the escape you had the absurd Goblin sizes, rediculously overblown Goblintown, impossible escapes of Thorin and Co....
No need to waste time and money on PJ's failed Hobbit. I'll stick with the 1977 Rankin/Bass version until a reasonable production of The Hobbit is done.

(From Wikipedia):

Or maybe the 1966 12-minute long version?

LordPhillock 11-10-2014 11:30 PM

if anyone still cares - I just had to take a look at the "extended edition", and doing so - as is our unholy tradition until next November - we also recorded another commentary of me and two of my mates seeing it for the first time ever.
For those who have a morbid curiosity about what new surprise awaits, I'd love it if you checked it out.

Rest assured, I was not ready for Thrain's wilhelm scream.

Tar-Jêx 11-12-2014 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LordPhillock (Post 695363)
if anyone still cares - I just had to take a look at the "extended edition", and doing so - as is our unholy tradition until next November - we also recorded another commentary of me and two of my mates seeing it for the first time ever.
For those who have a morbid curiosity about what new surprise awaits, I'd love it if you checked it out.

Rest assured, I was not ready for Thrain's wilhelm scream.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Nerwen 11-12-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LordPhillock (Post 695363)
if anyone still cares - I just had to take a look at the "extended edition", and doing so - as is our unholy tradition until next November - we also recorded another commentary of me and two of my mates seeing it for the first time ever.
For those who have a morbid curiosity about what new surprise awaits, I'd love it if you checked it out.

Rest assured, I was not ready for Thrain's wilhelm scream.

Okay, watched it. Again, nice riffing.

And yeah, the whole Thrain-business is just wierd.

Smug the Fabulous 11-21-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LordPhillock (Post 695363)
if anyone still cares - I just had to take a look at the "extended edition", and doing so - as is our unholy tradition until next November - we also recorded another commentary of me and two of my mates seeing it for the first time ever.
For those who have a morbid curiosity about what new surprise awaits, I'd love it if you checked it out.

Well, I still haven't seen The Desolation of Smaug and know about the changes they did, like the thing with Tauriel and Kili and so on...but this...THIS!!!
I honestly did not think these movies could get worse than the naked Dwarves in An Unexpected Journey until hearing the word "bollocks" and seeing Stephen Fry munching on the above-mentioned body parts...

Dear, dear me. I need a lie down.

Tar-Jêx 11-21-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Smug the Fabulous (Post 695474)
Well, I still haven't seen The Desolation of Smaug and know about the changes they did, like the thing with Tauriel and Kili and so on...but this...THIS!!!
I honestly did not think these movies could get worse than the naked Dwarves in An Unexpected Journey until hearing the word "bollocks" and seeing Stephen Fry munching on the above-mentioned body parts...

Dear, dear me. I need a lie down.

I don't think anything could be more disgusting and cringe worthy than the Tauriel x Kili romance subplot.

Inziladun 11-21-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tar-Jêx (Post 695478)
I don't think anything could be more disgusting and cringe worthy than the Tauriel x Kili romance subplot.

Ahem.

http://www.framecaplib.com/lotrlib/i...j/hauj1170.jpg

Tar-Jêx 11-22-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 695479)
Ahem.

-OH GOD-



I didn't want to remember that! In fact, I completely erased it from my memory.
Thanks, Inziladun.

Nerwen 11-06-2015 06:39 AM

Did you know Lord Phillock and friends have riffed the final one? A couple of months ago, actually. Check it out, they're pretty funny.

Faramir Jones 11-06-2015 09:08 AM

Galadriel and Kili?
 
Inziladun and Tar-Jêx, it could have been Galadriel and Kili...:eek::rolleyes:


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