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Nilpaurion Felagund 07-31-2008 06:40 AM

Hmmm . . .
 
I realised I'm the only one who got all four predictions correct.

Maybe putting them in the bracket is a charm? :D

the phantom 07-31-2008 02:30 PM

The semis take place in Minas Tirith. Nogrod will be posting the first semifinal. If it's up when I'm off work tonight then I will try and get the second semifinal up before I go to bed.

And just so you are aware, though two teams will be eliminated from the championship hunt, no individual players can be eliminated from the fantasy competition this round as there is a championship game and a bronze medal game. So all four teams will play again, giving you a chance to rack up points. :)

Nilpaurion Felagund 07-31-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

And just so you are aware, though two teams will be eliminated from the championship hunt, no individual players can be eliminated from the fantasy competition this round as there is a championship game and a bronze medal game. So all four teams will play again, giving you a chance to rack up points. :)(motnahp eht)
Ooh, right, I forgot about this! So I can still change the last extraneous player in my team during the next round. :D

Nogrod 08-01-2008 02:58 AM

I'll be trying to write the first match this evening, but because Legate is coming over today I'm not going to make a novel out of it but maybe a bit more modest one... :)

Sorry. I just didn't have time yesterday to write it...

the phantom 08-01-2008 06:43 PM

I haven't had much time either, so don't worry about it. I've been busy preparing for my trip.

Everyone, now that you know the setup for the championship and bronze medal matches, start making your trades in the usual manner, and make predictions as well. Since this is the final round we'll extend the deadline to give everyone some time, and also to give ME time to leave town and find internet at my destination and get in contact with Nogrod again.

Let's set the deadline at three days rather than two- so at this exact time three days from now. Some of you still have a shot at earning bonus points, so make your picks and hope for the best.

Nogrod 08-01-2008 07:49 PM

Well, it seems my trials with non-beasts and non-beauties give me tough luck... :)

So let's see... hard as it seems to be to find them from the remaining teams.

-- Idril (Gondolin)
++ Lhunardawen (T-I-G)

One beauty found and getting rid of and obsolete player! Perfect. I will now join Nilp in his hopes that the day is near Lhuna will give all Arda a show they won't forget.

But then I will have 5 players from the T-I-G and two of them forwards... against Armenelos... :eek:

So to be able to fit Lhuna into my team:

-- Nogrod (T-I-G)
++ Fëanor (Formenos)

Everytime I've had myself in my team I have performed badly. So I seem to be neither a beauty or a beast then. :p But I'll try Fëanor then this last round - he will probably fit both descriptions better than any of my other possible choices.

One more choice then and two obsolete ones...

-- Balrog #4 (Angband)
++ Caranthir (Formenos)

Trusting here Lommy about Caranthir being the choice of fitting both descriptions then...


That will result in:

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)

G- Huan (Formenos)

DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)
DF- Cailín (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)
DF- Elenwë (Túna)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)

MF- Lhunardawen (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- the phantom (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)

FW- Fëanor (Formenos)
FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
FW- Sauron (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)



Then the predictions.

Armenelos will beat Tol-In-Gaurhoth in the bronze match

So if Armenelos wins I will have at least this right... if T-I-G wins I might get a few points from my wide variety of players on the field...

Formenos beats Hithlum in the final

First I thought I'd cling to the same tactics as in the bronze-match but c'mon now... Great heroes they are - the Hithlum guys - but Huan and Aredhel have been the backbones of my team all along the tournament, so let them win and let me believe in it!

Gwathagor 08-01-2008 09:42 PM

--Gandalf
++Tar-Telperien (Armenelos)

--Boromir II
++Hurin (Hithlum)

--Eol
++the phantom (TIG)


G- Huan (Formenos)

DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Tar-Telperien (Armenelos)
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)

MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- the phantom (TIG)

FW- Ar-Pharazon (Armenelos)
FW- Feanor (Formenos)
FW- Tar-Minastir (Armenelos)

Formenos beats Hithlum
Armenelos beats TIG

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-02-2008 08:44 AM

First off:
--Melkor
++Maglor

Formenos's backside seems more solid now, so:
--Elros
++Huan

and:

--Tar-Telperiën
++Caranthir

Updated:

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)
GK - Huan (Formenos)
DF - Hador (Hithlum)
DF - Caranthir (Formenos)
DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)
MF - Lhunardawen (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Maglor (Formenos)
MF - Húrin (Hithlum)
MF - Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF - Ar-Adûnakhôr (Armenelos)
FW - Túrin (Hithlum)

Predictions and bracket for the game thread will come later. :)

McCaber 08-02-2008 10:28 AM

--Melkor (Angband)
++the phantom (TIG)

--Gandalf (Rivendell)
++Hookbill (TIG)

--Eol (Gondolin)
++Aredhel (Formenos)

G- Elros (Armenelos)
DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
DF- Hookbill (TIG)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
FW- Sauron (TIG)
FW- Feanor (Formenos)
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)

Picks:
FORMENOS!! over Hithlum
Armenelos over TIG

Gwathagor 08-02-2008 07:43 PM

Nice to see that I'm not the only one stuck with Balrog #2, McCaber!

McCaber 08-02-2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gwathagor (Post 563991)
Nice to see that I'm not the only one stuck with Balrog #2, McCaber!

Hey, at least he won't get carded.

skip spence 08-03-2008 10:14 AM

Out: Salgant; Melkor; Celeborn

In: Maglor (Formenos); Gwathagor (T-I-G); Tar Ciryatan (Armenelos)

Shadwell Army
G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Gwathagor (T-I-G)
DF- Cailin (T-I-G)
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)
DF - Tar Ciryatan (Armenelos)
MF- Maglor (Formenos)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
MF- The Phantom (T-I-G)
FW - Formendacil ((T-I-G)
FW- Turin (Hithlum)
FW- Feanor (Formenos)

Predictions:
TIG to beat Armenelos
Formenos to beat Hithlum

Nogrod 08-03-2008 01:47 PM

Announcement
 
The finals will be held in the great city of Menegroth for the reason that it's good grounds looking at the teams, because of the prowess showed by their own team in the first rounds and because of the pure splendour of the place worth the finals.

The results of the games (the final, the bronze-match) will be posted tomorrow after the deadline for changes tp has set. After that I will be able to be online on Sunday for some last result-statistics and the phantom may post some of those before that if he has a chance to do that during his trip.

So the final results about the phantasy-championship will come... eventually.

Nilpaurion Felagund 08-03-2008 11:36 PM

I realised I had no space in the brackets to put predictions in, so:

Armenelos < Tol-in-Gaurhoth
Formenos > Hithlum

Plus this for my sister (I thought she'd do it herself. :/ )

Quote:

--Luthien
++Cailin

--Ulmo
++Celebrimbor

--Turgon
++Hador

Lhuna
G- Huan (Formenos)
DF- Cailin (TIG)
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)
DF- Hador (Hithlum)
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)
MF- Eomer (TIG)
MF- the phantom (TIG)
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)
FW- Fingolfin (Hithlum)

TIG over Armenelos
Hithlum over Formenos (Lhunardawen)

the phantom 08-11-2008 02:10 PM

Well, I'm back!

My vacation was lovely, but awfully tiring at the same time. Thanks to Nogrod and Skip for keeping everything rolling.

As soon as I have everything here at home caught back up I will get to work on final tallies and such. :)

the phantom 08-11-2008 03:27 PM

points for semifinals...
 
I made each of the semi-final predictions worth 3 points. The points are added into the total already.

Gwath- 23
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)-
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)-
MF- Boromir II (Rivendell)-
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
MF- Eol (Gondolin)-
FW- Ar-Pharazon (Armenelos)- 3
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7
FW- Tar-Minastir (Armenelos)-

McCaber- 26
G- Elros (Armenelos)- 2
DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)-
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)-
MF- Eol (Gondolin)-
MF- Melkor (Angband)-
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 2
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 4
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 3

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)- 20
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)-
DF- Cailín (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)-
DF- Elenwë (Túna)-
DF- Balrog #4 (Angband)-
MF- Idril (Gondolin)-
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
MF- the phantom (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)- 3
FW- Nogrod (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)- -1
FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)- 3
FW- Sauron (Tol-In-Gaurhoth)- 4

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)- 28
G - Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)-
DF - Cailin (T-I-G)-
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)-
MF - Maglor (Formenos)-
MF - Hurin (Hithlum)- 2
MF - the phantom (T-I-G)- 3
FW - Feanor (Formenos)- 7
FW - Turin (Hithlum)- 7
FW - Ancalagon (Angband)-

Shadwell Army (Skip)- 26
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Salgant (Gondolin)-
DF- Cailin (T-I-G)-
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 1
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)-
MF- Melkor (Angband)-
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 2
MF- The Phantom (T-I-G)- 3
FW - Formendacil ((T-I-G)-
FW- Turin (Hithlum)- 7
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)- 17
G- Elros (Armenelos)- 2
DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF- Hador (Hithlum)-
DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)-
MF- Lhuna (TIG)-
MF- the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 3
MF- Hurin (Gondolin)-
MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)-
MF- Melkor (Angband)-
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 5
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)- 7

Ang- 6
G– Galadriel (Lothlorien)-
DF– Goldberry (Breeland)-
DF– Luthien (Doriath)-
DF– Celegorm (Formenos)- 2
DF– Curufin (Formenos)- 1
MF– Daeron (Doriath)-
MF– Maglor (Formenos)-
MF– Finrod (Nargothrond)-
FW– Maedhros (Formenos)- 3
FW– Maeglin (Gondolin)-
FW– Eomer (Edoras)-

Lhuna- 20
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Luthien (Doriath)-
DF- Ulmo (Valimar)-
DF- Turgon (Gondolin)-
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)-
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 5
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)-
MF- Eomer (TIG)-
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 2
FW- Fingolfin (Hithlum)- 4

Cailin- 11
G - Tuor (Gondolin)-
DF - Elenwe (Tuna)-
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)-
DF - Balrog 4 (Angband)-
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G)-
MF - Lhuna (T-i-G)-
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
MF - the phantom (T-i-G)- 3
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)-
MF - Tar Calmacil (Armenelos)-
FW - Maedhros (Formenos)- 3

Form- 23
G- Elros (Armenelos)- 2
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)-
DF- Cailin (TIG)-
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)-
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
MF- Amrod (Formenos)-
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 5
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 5
FW- Formendacil (TIG)-
FW- Fëanor (Formenos)- 7
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 4

Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)-
G- Melian (Doriath)-
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)-
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)-
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)-
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)-
MF- Melkor (Angband)-
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)-
MF- Eomer (TIG)-
FW- Azog (Moria)-
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)-
FW- Finwe (Tuna)-

Updated standings after semifinals-
Gwath- 240
McCaber- 236
Eomer- 221
Nogrod- 216
Skip- 211
Nilp- 191
Form- 172
Anguirel- 166
Lhuna- 166
Cailin- 164
Elmo- 114

the phantom 08-11-2008 04:06 PM

Points after the final round! Each prediction was worth 4. They've already been added in.

Gwath- 22
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Tar-Telperien (Armenelos)-
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)-
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)-
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 2
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 4
FW- Ar-Pharazon (Armenelos)- 4
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 3
FW- Tar-Minastir (Armenelos)-

McCaber- 22
G- Elros (Armenelos)- 1
DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF- Hookbill (TIG)- -1
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)-
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 2
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 4
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)-
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 3
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 3
FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 4

The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)- 18
G - Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)-
DF - Cailin (TIG)- -1
DF - Celeborn (Rivendell)-
MF - Maglor (Formenos)- 5
MF - Hurin (Hithlum)-
MF - the phantom (TIG)- 4
FW - Feanor (Formenos)- 3
FW - Turin (Hithlum)- 4
FW - Ancalagon (Angband)-

Beasts and Beauties (Nog)- 27
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)-
DF- Cailín (TIG)- -1
DF- Elenwë (Túna)-
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 2
MF- Lhunardawen (TIG)- 3
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 2
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 4
FW- Fëanor (Formenos)- 3
FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)- 4
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 3

Shadwell Army (Skip)- 29
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Gwathagor (TIG)-
DF- Cailin (TIG)- -1
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 2
DF - Tar Ciryatan (Armenelos)- -1
MF- Maglor (Formenos)- 5
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)-
MF- The Phantom (TIG)- 4
FW - Formendacil ((TIG)- 2
FW- Turin (Hithlum)- 4
FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 3

Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)- 35
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Hador (Hithlum)- -1
DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 2
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
MF- Lhunardawen (TIG)- 3
MF- Maglor (Formenos)- 5
MF- Húrin (Hithlum)-
MF- Eomer (TIG)- 4
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 4
MF- Ar-Adûnakhôr (Armenelos)- 3
FW- Túrin (Hithlum)- 4

Form- 12
G- Elros (Armenelos)- 1
DF- Lúthien (Doriath)-
DF- Cailin (TIG)- -1
DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)- -1
DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)-
MF- Amrod (Formenos)-
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 3
MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 2
FW- Formendacil (TIG)- 2
FW- Fëanor (Formenos)- 3
FW- Sauron (TIG)- 3

Ang- 12
G– Galadriel (Lothlorien)-
DF– Goldberry (Breeland)-
DF– Luthien (Doriath)-
DF– Celegorm (Formenos)- 2
DF– Curufin (Formenos)- 1
MF– Daeron (Doriath)-
MF– Maglor (Formenos)- 5
MF– Finrod (Nargothrond)-
FW– Maedhros (Formenos)- 4
FW– Maeglin (Gondolin)-
FW– Eomer (Edoras)-

Lhuna- 17
G- Huan (Formenos)- 3
DF- Cailin (TIG)- -1
DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2
DF- Hador (Hithlum)- -1
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)- -1
MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 3
MF- Fingon (Hithlum)-
MF- Eomer (TIG)- 4
MF- the phantom (TIG)- 4
MF- Hurin (Hithlum)-
FW- Fingolfin (Hithlum)-

Cailin- 15
G - Tuor (Gondolin)-
DF - Elenwe (Tuna)-
DF - Turgon (Gondolin)-
DF - Balrog 4 (Angband)-
MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (TIG)- 4
MF - Lhuna (TIG)- 3
MF - Aredhel (Formenos)- 2
MF - the phantom (TIG)- 4
MF - Fingon (Hithlum)- -1
MF - Tar Calmacil (Armenelos)- -1
FW - Maedhros (Formenos)- 4

Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)-
G- Melian (Doriath)-
DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)-
DF- Aule (Taniquetil)-
DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)-
DF- Elendur (Annumunas)-
MF- Melkor (Angband)-
MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)-
MF- Eomer (TIG)-
FW- Azog (Moria)-
FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)-
FW- Finwe (Tuna)-

the phantom 08-11-2008 04:09 PM

Point standings after the final round-

Gwath- 262
McCaber- 258
Nogrod- 243
Skip- 240
Eomer- 239
Nilp- 226
Form- 184
Lhuna- 183
Cailin- 179
Anguirel- 178
Elmo- 114

All that is left is to add in bonus points for pre-tournament predictions.

the phantom 08-11-2008 04:16 PM

Okay, here are some real quick final stats. Nogrod has the complete list of fantasy point totals I believe.

MOST GOALS

7
Miriel (Tuna)
Maedhros (Formenos)
Turin (Hithlum)
Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
6
Sauron (TIG)
Tar Minastir (Armenelos)
5
Feanor (Formenos)

MOST ASSISTS
6
Nerdanel (Tuna)
Feanor (Formenos)
the phantom (TIG)
5
Hurin (Hithlum)
Tar Ancalimon (Armenelos)

EDIT: According to my list Turin, Maedhros, and Feanor all ended with 37 fantasy points.

the phantom 08-11-2008 04:24 PM

Bonus points!!

Gwathagor- 10 points!
predicted the phantom for most assists

Skip- 10 points!
predicted Turin for most goals

Nilp- 10 points!
predicted Turin for most goals

Anguirel- 20 points!
predicted Maedhros for most fantasy points
predicted Formenos as tournament champion

Formendacil- 20 points!
predicted Miriel for most goals
predicted Turin for most fantasy points

All right, so unless Nogrod or someone finds an error in my scoring, here are the final fantasy totals...

Gwath- 272
McCaber- 258
Skip- 250
Nogrod- 243
Eomer- 239
Nilp- 236
Form- 204
Anguirel- 198
Lhuna- 183
Cailin- 179
Elmo- 114

I know some of you couldn't be around all the time to edit your teams and so had a tough time keeping up in the point totals, but thanks anyway for entering a team! :)

Gwathagor 08-11-2008 06:15 PM

:cool::cool::cool:

Eomer of the Rohirrim 08-12-2008 05:57 AM

Congratulations Gwath, and good game everyone. :)

Nogrod 08-12-2008 08:37 AM

I'll check the total points some time this evening... and there's the Arda Kicker magazine -stuff coming as well.

Congrats to Gwath for an excellent campaign!

Nogrod 08-12-2008 02:36 PM

The best fantasy-point players
 
Maedhros (Formenos) 37
Turin (Hithlum) 37

Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) 34
Hurin (Hithlum) 34

Miriel (Túna) 34

Sauron (T-I-G) 33

Fëanor (Formenos) 31

Maeglin (Gondolin) 29
Aredhel (Formenos) 29

Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) 28
the phantom (T-I-G) 28

Eöl (Gondolin) 26
Tar Minastir (Armenelos) 26

Gwathagor 08-16-2008 02:58 PM

Sooo...are we doing this again next year? I want to see if my strategy was actually good, or if I was just consistently lucky.


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