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Gil-Galad 10-02-2006 04:29 PM

it was pretty close to the top, around when Sleep did a game, i said that i wouldn't mind modding, and somebody (don't remember who) said that i was on the list...

Naria 10-02-2006 06:07 PM

Okay this took a bit of time, but meh I have a bit of it right now :rolleyes:

So it looks like the list should be:

Valier
Jenny
Gil
Nogrod
Mac
Volo



Samwise had to back out. Mith backed out as well with her reasons and said that she will be doing a game, but will put her name on the senior thread when she does want to mod post #1466. Gil asked to be on the list #1495 just before Nogrod asked. Gil has mentioned his game and therefore modding several times--pages 38 to now.

I hope I haven't wasted my time here and if I am wrong on anything please feel free to correct me. :)

Folwren 10-02-2006 07:32 PM

Eh, Valier, I'll pitch my luck in with the others again. A lot o' good it'll do me. Thanks for the invitation.

May I be Jack this time?

-- Folwren

Valier 10-02-2006 09:05 PM

List of players

Gil-Galad
JennyHallu
Valesse
Volo
Kitanna
Naria
Glirdan
Briseis
Rikae
Macalaure
Folwren- Jack the Blacksmith
Rune son of Bjarne
Thinlomien
Nogrod
Sleepy Ranger


Players bolded are still alive in Sleepy's game. We have enough players to start when Sleepy's is over, I will accept more players if more would like to play.

Folwren I hope that occupation is right...If not I can fix it. :)

I need occupations from all players. This is an ordinary farming village, so chose accordingly.

Volo 10-03-2006 12:48 AM

I'll be the usual village loony/poet/whatever you call them... (if this is a human village)

Sleepy Ranger 10-03-2006 06:04 AM

May I be a travelling merchant?

JennyHallu 10-03-2006 06:56 AM

I'm a prophetess.

JennyHallu 10-03-2006 07:00 AM

I'm double posting I know...but I have a question.


The seer is just like an ordo? he/she can be turned into a Thing with no warning?

I'm not sure I like the Things...the weaver's role is impossible if the roles of the villagers are not immutable.

Valier 10-03-2006 08:48 AM

List of players

Gil-Galad
JennyHallu- Prophetess
Valesse
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna
Naria
Glirdan
Briseis
Rikae
Macalaure
Folwren- Jack the Blacksmith
Rune son of Bjarne
Thinlomien
Nogrod
Sleepy Ranger
- Travelling merchant

Players bolded are still alive in Sleepy's game. We have enough players to start when Sleepy's is over, I will accept more players if more would like to play

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny
The seer is just like an ordo? he/she can be turned into a Thing with no warning?

I'm not sure I like the Things...the weaver's role is impossible if the roles of the villagers are not immutable.

Yes the Seer can be changed to a Thing with no warning. I am not sure I agree with you on the impossibility of it, That is why I have offered to let players volunteer for the Weaver role. I can take suggestions if you know of something that will help.

Kitanna 10-03-2006 09:15 AM

I'd like to be the village hermit.

Meneltarmacil 10-03-2006 09:35 AM

I'd like to play, though I'm going to be gone from Friday afternoon to Monday afternoon this weekend. If it works out, my occupation will be Former Pirate.

Macalaure 10-03-2006 10:09 AM

I'd like to be the village doomsayer.

Volo 10-03-2006 12:16 PM

It'll be hard to be a loony in this company :D This doesn't seem to be such an ordinary village after all. There should be somebody else of a real profession than Sleepy and Folwren... :rolleyes:

Naria 10-03-2006 12:19 PM

I'll be the towns herbalist :D

Briseis 10-03-2006 12:37 PM

hi. i would like to be a seamstress :)

JennyHallu 10-03-2006 12:44 PM

If roles can be changed without warning then only a connection means anything. A non-connection is only good that day. And really, how likely is it that the Weaver picks two "Things"?

And we have a huge village for the low number of gifteds you're planning, especially if the seer is as like as not never able to reveal his/her dreams and never be revealed.

Naria 10-03-2006 01:00 PM

Just a thought
 
Since this is becoming a larger village, maybe Valier should consider putting in a couple more gifteds?

Quote:

especially if the seer is as like as not never able to reveal his/her dreams and never be revealed.

Ahhh, I see your point Jenny. This does offer the village little hope...like Valier said though, we can offer solutions to problems as they arise. What to do...hmm :confused:

Folwren 10-03-2006 01:20 PM

Nonsense, nonsense! We don't need more gifted! If our village is getting larger, what we need are more wolves! (I don't know about this 'Thing' thing, if you catch my meaning.)

In a mafia game, if the game as has eight players, say, there are two mafia, a sherrif, and a nurse. If the number leaps to 15, there are 4 mafia, 1 sherrif and 1 nurse - not more gifted, merely more wolves.

Don't you see? In a village that is large, the villagers have a ton of advantage if there are only three wolves because tehre are lots of people to spare. To make it more challenging, therefore, we should not up the number of gifted, but rather the number of badies.

Oh, wait a moment. . .do we only have one gifted? A seer? Don't we need some protector or other? If we don't have a ranger/nurse, then I would move to say that we need one.

-- Folwren

Anguirel 10-03-2006 01:23 PM

The Black Speech of Mafiador is not uttered here...

Folwren 10-03-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anguirel
The Black Speech of Mafiador is not uttered here...

What! Are you telling me that my simile and logic doesn't work? I do not ask your pardon, Master Anguirel. (Unless I've trully done something against the rules, then I might.)

And in reference to my last post - I see we have a weaver who is a very interesting, gifted character. Still not quite the same as a ranger.

-- Folwren

Glirdan 10-03-2006 02:09 PM

Oooo!! I'm going back to my roots. I'll be the town musician!!! :D

Naria 10-03-2006 02:18 PM

Quote:

If we don't have a ranger/nurse, then I would move to say that we need one.

I second that motion! What say you all... :D

btw, I will take the liberty of passing this by Valier asap. Just so no one thinks that we are going behind her back or anything of the like. :)

Anguirel 10-03-2006 03:33 PM

Don't worry Folwren, just an aesthetic scruple. As Elrond is about azg ghazh wotsit, so am I about nurses and cops and medics.

Naria 10-03-2006 04:05 PM

Just a head's up...the Ranger is in!! Valier will make the necessary change when she has some free time today :)

Valier 10-03-2006 08:09 PM

List of players

Gil-Galad
JennyHallu- ProphetessValesse
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Naria- Herbalist
Glirdan- Town musician
Briseis- Seamstress
Rikae
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Folwren- Jack the Blacksmith
Rune son of Bjarne- Weaver (a real one)
Thinlomien- Blind gardener maid
Nogrod
Sleepy Ranger- Travelling merchant
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate


I will be adding the Ranger to the game. :)

Thinlómien 10-04-2006 01:37 AM

I'll be a blind gardener maid.

Thinlómien 10-04-2006 02:01 AM

Valier, I think we could have four thingies. Though the baddies will maybe be more difficult to catch this time, I'd still rather have a too challenging game than a too easy one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by me
I'll be a blind gardener maid.

Yes, I'm aware how many jokes will spring from that... :rolleyes:

Meneltarmacil 10-04-2006 05:37 AM

When you said this will be "a game of bodysnatchers," Valier, did you mean that the Things would turn everyone they killed into fellow Things? If that's the case, I really don't see how the villagers can possibly win, as the Things would just keep replacing their dead. Though I'm probably mistaken on something...

JennyHallu 10-04-2006 05:59 AM

The Things choose a person, and one Thing at random is killed and replaced with that person.

Another thought: Can the Ranger be turned into a Thing without warning same as the Seer? Because if so, will either really be helpful?

Even a Seer's dream will mean nothing unless they dream of a Thing.

I guess I don't much like this body-snatcher idea. The Weaver could be fascinating, but with the way the body-snatchers work I don't think that role will get a good test: if roles change nightly, then anything the Weaver knows is meaningless.

Valier 10-04-2006 10:17 AM

hmmm this all has made me think.... Well when I first though up this game I realized that with the body snatching this would be a more difficult game, But I thought adding the weaver and Seer would balance that out. The Weaver can use their gift wisely to help the village if they are smart about it, that is why I was letting players volunteer for the role. The Weaver can re-Weave anyone they want, as many times as they want. Yes the Seer and Ranger can be turned into a Thing without notice, but what notice could I give without giving away too much? If the Seer and Weaver worked together they could find out the village very quickly. I am not so sure we should add another Thing to the mix. Remember every night a Thing will die and be replaced by a villager. So every day the ambiance of the village may change, which should give the Weaver and Seer something to think about. I can have the Seer and Ranger die like the Weaver when they are voted for by the Things....would that be better? I am not so sure we should have 4 Things. I will leave this for awhile and let you players decide what to do.

I still need occupations from

Gil-Galad
Rikae
Nogrod

Macalaure 10-04-2006 11:10 AM

By having a dead Wo... er, Thing every day we also have a dead Thing's post to study every day. That's an advantage. When the Seer is turned into a Thing we will probably never find out who it is and that's a major disadvantage. I think it's better if s/he just dies like the Weaver. I don't see a problem with the turning of the Ranger.
Except this, I think we should just play like it is now. It's going to be a lot of fun, even if something doesn't work out as it's supposed to.

Valier 10-04-2006 11:46 AM

After some thought and discussion I have some things to say..... Ok so the Seer and Weaver when they are chosen by the Things have a 1 day reprieve. They die slowly over the day period and die at night fall. They may use this time to share their info with the village if they chose. But remember what the Seer and Weaver may re veil may not still hold true, because they could have dreamt of someone and they were innocent and the next night they could have been changed. This game is based on the movie "THE THING" (with Kurt Russel), there is supposed to be confusion and doubt all through the village. No one knows who could be a Thing at any given time. The Ranger can be changed into a Thing, the Seer and Weaver cannot be changed. They just die slowly over the Day phase. There will only be 3 Things, remember when the village kills one, there are now only 2 and then 1, they do not get to make "new" Things, they only replace themse4lves. EX; Village lynches a Thing during the day. Now they are down to 2 Things. Those 2 Things pick someone to body snatch, and that villager just replaces one of the 2, they do not bring the Things back to 3.

This is my final verdict!! I will not change any of the Roles again. I will however answer questions, but I agree with Mac in that we should just try the game as is and see how it goes.

JennyHallu 10-04-2006 01:44 PM

Wait a second...one more question: You said "if the Seer and Weaver work together"...does that mean they know eachother's identities? That could make a HUGE difference.

Gil-Galad 10-04-2006 01:47 PM

hmmm...make me a....A Friendly Neighbour-hood Window-Cleaner

Valier 10-04-2006 05:08 PM

Player list


Gil-Galad- Friendly neighborhood window cleaner
JennyHallu- Prophetess
Valesse-?
Volo- Village loony/Poet
Kitanna- Hermit
Naria- Herbalist
Glirdan- Town musician
Briseis- Seamstress
Rikae-?
Macalaure- Village Doomsayer
Folwren- Jack the Blacksmith
Rune son of Bjarne- Weaver (not the actual one)
Thinlomien- Blind gardener maid
Nogrod- GoatHerder
Sleepy Ranger- Travelling merchant
Meneltarmacil- Former pirate


I still need jobs from
Valesse
Rikae





Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny
Wait a second...one more question: You said "if the Seer and Weaver work together"...does that mean they know each other identities? That could make a HUGE difference.

Yes this would make a big difference. If the Weaver and Seer worked together by night they would be too strong. Therefore the Weaver and Seer may not talk to each other by pm at all and they do not know the identity of each other. All 3 gifted are in the dark about each other.

I would like to start the game pretty much as soon as Sleepy's is over, so within the next day or so I would hope. :)

Thinlómien 10-05-2006 02:11 AM

Is the seer allowed to redream of people, since roles can change? I assume yes.

Nogrod 10-05-2006 02:33 AM

I will be a goat herder.

Valier 10-05-2006 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lommy
Is the seer allowed to redream of people, since roles can change? I assume yes.

You assumed correct. ;)

Valesse 10-05-2006 01:50 PM

I hate to do this to everyone, but I think I'm going to have to pull out of this game. I've got too many things planned and besides all of that my activity has (obvious) been on a decline.

I'm sorry.

Rikae 10-05-2006 03:20 PM

I'll be the cheesemaker. (blessed are the cheesemakers!)


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