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:)

Thanks Voronwe and H-I - Ok...Keeping with the Hobbit-y theme, who was the first Thain of the Shire and how long did his family/line hold that title for?

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it was Bucca of the Marish, of whom Oldbucks claimed descent. As for how long, I don't remember exactly, but apparently until Oldbucks crossed Baranduin and changed their name to Brandybucks, and thainship came to Tooks.

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Whoops

Actually I wasn't looking for a year or event; rather that they held the title for 10 generations, (which was not clear when I asked so admittedly I phrased the question wrongly.) <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> Ask!

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In the Hobbit, how are called Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri?

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Well,

I'm not exactly sure, but Elrond does say when asked about Glamdring and Orcrist that these are &quot;old swords of the High Elves of the West...&quot; And the remaining Silvan Teleri Elves would be plain Wood Elves?


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Well, that is correct so far, but I need three kindreds of high elves. As a hint - they are called so not by any character, but by a narrator (i e Tolkien himself)

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Found It

Ok, I think I have it now...It's after the spider part, where Tolkien says:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> &quot;The feasting people were Wood-elves, of course...They differed from the High Elves of the West...for most of them were descended from the ancient triebes that never went to Faerie in the West. There the Light-elves (presumably Vanyar) and the Deep-elves (Noldor) and the Sea-elves (Teleri) went and lived for ages...&quot;<hr></blockquote>

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He gues-s-sed, my precious-s-s, he gues-s-sed :D

Shoot away

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Precious-s-s!

We hates-s-s it precious-s-s, nasty dirty enep! <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> What are named the green elves-s-s, with bright eyes we hates, that marched into ossiriand? (In Quenya, precious-s-s, in Quenya... <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

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'...and they were called the Laiquendi, the Green-elves, because of their raiment of the colour of leaves...'

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Laiquendi

Yup. Laiquendi were the Green-Elves. Continue!

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Whoops

(posted twice again and didn't realise it till the next morn. Apologies <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> )

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These items are in LoTR always called by their 'translated' name, though their proper name is known as well. One of them nearly became 'bane' for one of the banakil. Give me both names

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Double Trouble

Hmm...I think I get what you're saying, but...you want both names of an object that was nearly the 'bane' of one of the halflings? I can only think of one instance though, and it doesn't really fit...Pippin getting crushed by a Troll/Olog Hai. Hmm.

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Nope

A hint - Pippin is ok, but a 'bane' is an object

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Re: Double Trouble

Like the elvish swords of Gondolin. I remember in The Hobbit I think, the goblins called glamdring and orcrist banes or something like that.

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Pip

And Durin's Bane, the balrog. Erm...AHAH! After trying to remember every single instance where Pippin does something wrong...It must have been when Pippin looked into the Palantir/Seeing-stone? Palantir/Orthanc-stone? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Right. And in the LoTR palantiri are never (at least in the bulk of a text itself) called so, but always 'seeing-stones' shoot away, enep

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Dwellings

Thanks. Would've been earlier but for School <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> Continuing on the same basic idea, partly because I can't think of anything original, what are the three names of the mountain on which Manwe and Varda dwell?

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Re: Dwellings

Amon Uilos, Oiolosse, and Taniquetil.

<h6> A furore Normannorum / libera nos domine / summa pia gratia / nostra conservando / corpora et custodia / de gente fera / normannica nos / libera quae nostra / vastat deus regna </h6></p>

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Yup

Correct. I was actually looking for the Westron name, 'Holy Mountain' but Amon Uilos is 100% correct. Ask us, Sharku!

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Re: Yup

Who had &quot;weeds in their silver hair&quot;?

<h6> What still of desease in me found sleep / I tore it out with my firm hand / And threw it, laughing, steep and deep / Down into the snow-covered land </h6></p>

Dead people in the Dead Marshes

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Re: Yup

Yes!
Thought of a custom title yet, fellow G-P?

<h6> What still of desease in me found sleep / I tore it out with my firm hand / And threw it, laughing, steep and deep / Down into the snow-covered land </h6></p>

Nay, I did not yet (m-mm, I was not given an offer to choose one yet, either :rolleyes:)

And here is the next qustion:

Where was old castle of Durthang located?

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Re: G-P titles

Northwest of Mordor, where the Ephel Duáth and Ered Lithui meet just above Udûn.

<h6> What still of desease in me found sleep / I tore it out with my firm hand / And threw it, laughing, steep and deep / Down into the snow-covered land </h6></p>

Correct, and really quick at that.

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Re: ah

By which title did Frodo speak in reverence of Mrs Maggot?

<h6>'Spring is all around you / and calls your name softly in the wind / Burning when the day is dying / she kills the rays of a boundless sun. / And falls after years of death / eternally on your tears of joy. / So feel, feel the hands of glory / that will lead you into a golden sea.' (Kirlian Camera, 'Ascension') </h6></p>

A queen among farmers, probably?

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Re: ah

Exactly!

<h6>'Spring is all around you / and calls your name softly in the wind / Burning when the day is dying / she kills the rays of a boundless sun. / And falls after years of death / eternally on your tears of joy. / So feel, feel the hands of glory / that will lead you into a golden sea.' (Kirlian Camera, 'Ascension') </h6></p>

Aha, than let us have some more hobbitish stuff. what was the etimology of a word 'fallohide'?

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Entymology

Hmm...I don't know exactly, and I looked it up but couldn't get an exact answer. The only lead I got was that it is a derivative from the old english word fealuhaer, meaning 'yellow haired.' Apart from that I don't know. :rollyeyes

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Re: Entymology

yellow haired feet?

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Hmm...

I think it's time to ask a new question, H-I. I can't find anything on fallohides.

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Re: Hmm...

sounds like straw covered back sides to me

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

ok, here is the next one:

According to Gandalf (who was quoting another lore-master of yore) what was brought to middle-earth by the Sea-kings?

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Re: Hmm...

Seven stones, seven stars and one white tree.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

You got it. Go ahead

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Re: Hmm...

Name the &quot;Lord of Gifts&quot;.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

Annatar aka Sauron aka Gorthaur etc