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Great work, Nerwen! :)

In the player aliases, you forgot Mirandir=Keeper of Dol Guldur.

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Originally Posted by Macalaure (Post 637385)

Great work, Nerwen! :)

In the player aliases, you forgot Mirandir=Keeper of Dol Guldur.

I thought our old Mira was back!

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Originally Posted by Macalaure (Post 637385)

Great work, Nerwen! :)

In the player aliases, you forgot Mirandir=Keeper of Dol Guldur.

No I didn't– Mira is once again using her old account, and as the Keeper account actually belongs to somebody else, I thought it was an unnecessary complication.

I'm not up to date, I see. :o

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 637381)

btw, no wonder n00bs get confused. Some of these nicknames aren't exactly obvious, are they?

I take full responsibility for Steve.

I think I will post the general guidelines in one post, glossary in another and nicknames in the third.

By the way Saucepan Man's general abbreviation is SpM. And you can add Tummy to the phantom though I think I'm the only one who calls him that :rolleyes::p

It is looking good and thanks for all the work. Nerwen I don't plan on posting until it is ready but I want the ball to be rolling which it is.

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Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 637414)

I think I will post the general guidelines in one post, glossary in another and nicknames in the third.

By the way Saucepan Man's general abbreviation is SpM. And you can add Tummy to the phantom though I think I'm the only one who calls him that.

It is looking good and thanks for all the work. Nerwen I don't plan on posting until it is ready but I want the ball to be rolling which it is.

Hehe. I think if we added Tummy to the glossary for Phantom people could get confused between him and Tum. Although I still think that ranks on top ten funniest nicknames. ;)

Also, Steve....oh, Steve. Even now that I know his proper RL name, I still call him Steve. o_O

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 637381)

Sure, Stan, I just did that to annoy you.:p

Heh, heh, heh. Somehow I'd guessed that. :p

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Originally Posted by Boromir88 (Post 637384)

No trying, just do. I realize I am completely hypocritical when saying this, seeing as my game was made up of d-list superheroes, and completely unrelated to Tolkien in anyway. But I shall do better next time, and we should respect the admins and purpose of the 'Downs existance to keep games Tolkien related.

I don't think it has to be as rigid as an RPG, but still Tolkien elements have to be involved. I'm in favor (inspired by Nerwen) of a futuristic WW game, with the SS Lothlorien going where no Elves have gone before to seek out werewolves, wherever they may be... :p

Exactly. What I meant by try was that if you have a game that doesn't have a Tolkien theme, try to fiddle with it so you can at least have some Tolkien elements.

And oh no. Nerwen, you've created a monster. o_O

I tend to spell it Espiem, but I blame that on Elempi, whom I miss greatly.

I thought you called him sweetcakes. ;)

Also, we need to add this to the glossary.

"Fea is evil. Always. Even when she has no alignment, she's evil."

:Merisu:

Real additions to the glossary (although I do hate taking the fun out of our pet names....)

Wilwa=Muffin, Vanilwa Muffin, etc.
Sally=Cupcake, Sallycakes, etc.
Glirdan=Glirdanpie, Glirdypie, etc.
Phantom=The Puddingtom. *snerk*
Lottie=Lottiepop. (Yes, I know, I just thought of it. But it's staying.)

Did I miss anyone? I keep thinking I have, but I can't recall who else is sweet. :)

Also, the guidelines should note that muffins are really just ugly cupcakes. It's an important fact that newbies need to know before they play Werewolf. Actually, it's an important fact that everyone needs to know, but I digress.

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 637423)

I thought you called him sweetcakes.

Snookums, Love of My Life, Darlingest, Sauciekins... There were never lovers more notorious than we were...

I spell it SPAM, but it's similar enough that newbies should be able to understand. Really nicely done, Mac and Nerwen! Also, Sallycake is win. :p

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Originally Posted by Sallycakes

Also, the guidelines should note that muffins are really just ugly cupcakes. It's an important fact that newbies need to know before they play Werewolf. Actually, it's an important fact that everyone needs to know, but I digress.

It's what's on the inside that counts. I have a t-shirt to prove it. :p

Great glossary, and the list of nicknames was a brilliant idea!

'Lottiepop' is so perfect! :D

I added something to the rules that I thought was important. In Guidelines for Mods, Part III, I added as new rule:

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3. Make sure to start/end all days and nights exactly on time.

Sure, no harm comes from starting a day a little late, but a mod should make an effort to really be on time every night/day.

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Originally Posted by morm

By the way Saucepan Man's general abbreviation is SpM. And you can add Tummy to the phantom though I think I'm the only one who calls him that

I'd better, because that's exactly the sort of thing that bewilders newbies– "tum" (autume98) and "tummy" (the phantom).

I'll put in "SPAM" as well for the Saucepan Man.

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Originally Posted by Sally

Wilwa=Muffin, Vanilwa Muffin, etc.
Sally=Cupcake, Sallycakes, etc.
Glirdan=Glirdanpie, Glirdypie, etc.
Phantom=The Puddingtom. *snerk*
Lottie=Lottiepop. (Yes, I know, I just thought of it. But it's staying.)

I forgot "Sallycakes"– but where has tp been called "The Puddingtom"?

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 637439)

I forgot "Sallycakes"– but where has tp been called "The Puddingtom"?

He's not really, except for occasionally on Facebook...but he *should* be. :p

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 637418)

Hehe. I think if we added Tummy to the glossary for Phantom people could get confused between him and Tum.

No, that's exactly why it needs to go in.

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Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 637441)

He's not really, except for occasionally on Facebook...but he *should* be. :p

Ha, that's where it was! I was trying to find a post to quote and didn't see one. Duh, Sally, that's because it started on facebook. And yes, he should. ;)

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 637442)

No, that's exactly why it needs to go in.

Good point, actually. I suppose I'd rather have people wonder what the heck is up in Morm's head (:p) than get players confused. *nods sagely*

I will keep looking in as best I can but when a final draft is agreed upon send me a PM and I will begin posting it.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 637369)

Guide to Players' Nicknames

Doesn't that kind of spoil the fun a little bit?

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Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 638221)

Doesn't that kind of spoil the fun a little bit?

Really, I think so too, but since we're being thorough....*shrugs* Heck if I know.

Also, Celly = Celuin = Xed. :p

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Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 638236)

Also, Celly = Celuin = Xed. :p

Oh, I forgot her– and Mr Agreeable!

*goes off to fix it*

I'd forgotten about "xed" for Celuin. That's a favourite. ;)

Is everybody more or less okay with this? I made it 7 games prior to modding.

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Originally Posted by Macalaure (Post 637218)

A. Guidelines for Players:

I. Expectations and Responsibilities:
1. Read the rules of the game you are playing in and abide by them.
2. After signing up for a game, you are expected to participate (post at least once per day and vote) throughout the entire game or until your death.
3. If a player cannot participate for a Day, it should be stated and explained on the Admin thread (and only there). Extensive absences can lead to modfire subject to the mod.
4. Remember that the team you are playing on is counting on you. Lack of participation or deviation from your role (in particular its intended alignment) will spoil the game for the other players.

II. General Rules:
1. Name-calling, swearing, and abbreviated/implied swearing are not allowed. This is against the rules of the forum and may lead to consequences beyond the game.
2. Turn your status on invisible so that people do not know when you are online when playing.
3. Editing a post for reasons other than grammar or crossposting is prohibited. Once a post is submitted, the content within it must not be changed.

III. Deadline and Voting:
1. Posting in the game thread has to stop at the deadline.
2. Unless otherwise specified by the mod, votes should be on a separate line, preceded by a "++", and bolded. Otherwise they do not count.
3. Votes are counted up to deadline 'downs time. Votes posted after this time do not count. (F.ex., for a 1pm deadline, a vote posted at 1:00 counts, at 1:01 does not.)
4. Votes can be regarded as non-retractable unless otherwise specified by the mod.

IV. Guidelines on communication between players during a game:
1. No PMing or other outside communication about an ongoing game is allowed, unless your role specifically allows it.
2. No game-related communication between living and dead players is allowed.
3. PMs and other private discussion may not be quoted during the game.
4. Post-game discussion including the dead should not begin until after the final narration or until the mod officially allows it.
5. Admin threads are only intended for rules, signups, game management, and notifications about absences. They are not a place to chat.

B. Guidelines for Mods:

I. Before Signing up for Modding:
1. Would-be mods must have participated in at least 7 games of Barrowdowns werewolf before modding.
2. When you sign up to mod you should say when you are or aren't able to do it.
3. Mods who miss their turn twice or miss a reserved month once are removed from the list.
4. Members who have already moderated a game cannot mod again until at least 6 months after their last game.
5. It is very strongly recommended that your game should have a Tolkien-related theme.
6. Try to keep the number of traditional and experimental games even.

II. Before the Game:
1. If there is a foreseeable chance that you might not be available at one of the deadlines, consider appointing a co-mod.
2. Among the first posts in the admin thread one post should contain all of the following
- List of players
- List of roles including the respective number.
- Any special rules or events, in particular an announcement of any secret twists.
- Deadline time.
- Deadline for submission of picks (if differing from general deadline).
- Rules in case of a voting tie.
- Modfire rules for no-shows or inappropriate behavior.
3. If your game is experimental, make sure that you thought everything through and that the game has equal chances of victory for all sides.
4. The rules post should be as clear, complete, and detailed as possible.
5. If you change rules, edit the post and point out the change.
6. The mod has to pm the roles to all players, including ordos.

III. During the Game:
1. Mods should abide by their own rules. Should changes be necessary, they have to be made known to everybody.
2. Mods must not make any extra knowledge available to any player outside of what is covered in the rules.
3. Make sure to start/end all days and nights exactly on time.
4. The game thread should contain a list of players and dead players with time of death and role at the end of every Night and Day.
5. The mod should reveal the role of a lynched player within 30 minutes of the deadline.
6. At the end of the game, the mod has to ensure the beginning of post-game discussion within reasonable time.

Don't forget that your players are counting on you. You are responsible to provide them with a well-managed game.

I don't see anything missing from that. Looks like a good, general guide to me.

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Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 638236)

Also, Celly = Celuin = Xed. :p

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 638306)

Oh, I forgot her– and Mr Agreeable!

*goes off to fix it*

Oh snerk yes, to both of these. :p

I have posted the first sticky thread. Let me know when the other posts are done and I will add them. I made another change and I apologize for forgetting to incorporate that into this draft. It is the part about Tolkien themed. It is required to have it themed or at least a tie into Tolkien.

I also merged SpM's sticky post with mine.

Thank you for all your work on this and helping to make this game better.

Let me know when the other two posts are done and I will post them too.

thanks

Request: can people look over the glossary and names list and see if I've left anything (or anyone) out?

Nerwen, what do you think, one more day and then just post it if there is no feedback?

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 638613)

Request: can people look over the glossary and names list and see if I've left anything (or anyone) out?

I didn't see anything obviously missing from either. It looks good to me. I was glad you added this bit:

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Note: there are many possible variants of Lovers; sometimes one or both has another role, which may be evil. Otherwise Lovers are generally assumed to play for the village, but this is not always the case.

There's a reason why I never trust Lovers. ;)

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Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 638739)

Nerwen, what do you think, one more day and then just post it if there is no feedback?

Yes, I think so.

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Originally Posted by Zil

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There's a reason why I never trust Lovers.

I don't think either of us ever will.;)

Posted.

Thanks for all the help.

Crap. Stupidly, NOW I realize that Dun wasn't listed as....well, as Dun. o_O

ETA: Yes he is. I'm just illiterate. Then again, it explains why I hadn't brought it up before. *shrugs*

Yes, and this list won't be updated often at all...sorry.

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Originally Posted by mormegil (Post 638814)

Yes, and this list won't be updated often at all...sorry.

Hey, totally fine. That's why I mentioned it right away, and then I realized I'd derped pretty bad. From what I see the list is fine, so updates hopefully won't be needed too often anyway.