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Originally Posted by The Perky Ent

An interesting point indeed. My main source of quick information in reguards to Middle Earth Fun and Games is the Encyclopedia of Arda . According to it, Tuor left c. 560. and Elrond was born c. 525. The c. makes it a grey area, but I think they would have met, although it probably wouldn't have been worth mention in the Silmarilion. Now....Theoden --> Bolg!

Well, it's not a huge point... but Elrond can still be skipped anyway.

Now, to reply:

Theoden-> Merry -> Bilbo-> Beorn-> Bolg

Okay, lemme think...

Anarion -> Hurin (of the House of Hador)

Anárion -> Gil-galad -> Fingon -> Húrin

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Anárion -> Gil-galad -> Fingon -> Húrin

Looks quite correct, Milord Felagund.

Your move.

Thank you, Sir Formendacil!

Hmmm . . .

Gamil -> Gimli

Gamli -> Telchar -> Curufin -> Feanor -> Galadriel -> Gimli

Maybe?!? :confused:

Well the problem with this question is that there is no proved interaction (I belive) Between "Gamil Zirak and Telchar" and anybody else. Perky tries with a weapon, in this case Angrist, owned by Curufin - good thinking, but as there are no proof we might as well use another weapon an make it much shorter :p

Gamil Zirak - Telch - Aragorn - Gimli

*sigh*

I didn't know weapons could know people (except maybe Gurthang :p)

Then how can you connect Telchar and Curufin?

He could have....could have....presented it to him personally, I guess....

Somebody anonymously neg-repped me for my question-post. Oh well, there's no accounting for given reps.

By the way, if you plan to link using weapons, you must include the weapons themselves in your answer. :p

Gamil Zirak - Telch - Narsil - Aragorn - Gimli

Deagol ---> Yavanna

Wizard rule doesn't apply. Not really hard, but I'm bored :)

Well, then it would be:

Deagol --> Smeagol --> Gandalf/Olorin --> Yavanna

Hmm....do we know if Gandalf is directly tied to Yavanna? If he is, can you give me a quote to it. If not, there's a direct link to her I can think of

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Originally Posted by The Perky Ent

Hmm....do we know if Gandalf is directly tied to Yavanna? If he is, can you give me a quote to it. If not, there's a direct link to her I can think of

They were both in the Music of the Ainur...

>.<

Ok, let me try to say this right: There is a wizard connection to Yavanna, but it's a direct connection. Hopefully you'll understand what I mean.

Maybe you're thinking about this note from UT that proves that Olorin and Yavanna was at the same council, chosing the Heren Istarion:

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Most of the remaining writings about the Istari (as a group) are unhappily no more than very rapid jottings, often illegible. Of major interest, however, is a brief and very hasty sketch of a narrative, telling of a council of the Valar, summoned it seems by Manwë ("and maybe he called upon Eru for counsel?"), at which it was resolved to send out three emissaries to Middle-earth. "Who would go ? For they must be mighty, peers of Sauron, but must forgo might, and clothe themselves in flesh so as to treat on equality and win the trust of Elves and Men. But this would imperil them, dimming their wisdom and knowledge, and confusing them with fears, cares, and weariness coming from the flesh." But two only came forward: Curumo, who was chosen by Aulë, and Alatar, who was sent by Oromë. Then Manwë asked, where was Olórin ? And Olórin, who was clad in grey, and having just entered from a journey had seated himself at the edge of the council, asked what Manwë would have of him. Manwë replied that he wished Olórinto go as the third messenger to Middle-earth (and it is remarked in parentheses that "Olórinwas a lover of the Eldar that remained," apparently to explain Manwë's choice). But Olórindeclared that he was too weak for such a task, and that he feared Sauron. Then Manwë said that that was all the more reason why he should go, and that he commanded Olórin(illegible words follow that seems to contain word "third"). But at that Varda looked up and said: "Not as the third;" and Curumo remembered it.
The note ends with the statement that Curumo [Saruman] took Aiwendil [Radagast] because Yavanna begged him, and that Alatar took Pallando as a friend.

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The note ends with the statement that Curumo [Saruman] took Aiwendil [Radagast] because Yavanna begged him

The link I was looking for was Gandalf -> Radagast -> Yavanna. But since you've defended him with a nice big quote, It's Fordim's go

Well, I still stand by my original answer.

In UT, p. 393, there is an account of "a council of the Valar, summoned it seems by Manwe...at which it was resolved to send out three emissaries to Middle-earth" Olorin was at the council; he was Manwe's choice but he "declared he was too weak for such a task, and that he feared Sauron". Yavanna was also at the council: "Curumo [Saruman] took Aiwendil [Radagast] because Yavanna begged him."

So apparently there was at least one occasion when Olorin and Yavanna were at the same event.

But even if this won't answer, then there's always:

Deagol --> Smeagol --> Gandalf/Olorin --> Saruman/Curumo --> Yavanna

EDIT Cross-posted with Telchar and Perky!

All right, here's mine:

Mimosa Bunce --> Tar-Minastir

BUMP

C'mon guys, it isn't that hard... :p

Hermmm....12 days with no response. If it goes a full two weeks, what then? Do I simply reveal the answer and pose another??? Would anyone like a hint???

Mimosa Bunce --> Rosa Baggins* - Bilbo - Elrond --> Tar-Minastir

* She was only 34 older than Bilbo, and Bilbos fathers 1st cousin, so I assume they met.

Oooooo, so close and yet it could be a bit shorter at the front end, and I think it might need to be a bit longer at the back end (but I'm not sure about that one).

OK -- well as it seems I've effectively killed the thread, here's the solution:

Mimosa Bunce --> Bilbo Baggins* --> Elrond --> captain of Tar-Minastir's forces** --> Tar-Minastir

* Bilbo was 11 when Mimosa died so he must have had some contact with her

** I can't find a direct reference that Tar-Minastir went to Gil-Galad's aid himself; the accounts in the UT an the Appendix of LotR state that he "sent" an army...

Be that as it may, Telchar was so close that I shall cede the floor to him

Since this thread has been so long stagnant...

Ar-Gimilzor --> Gimli

Assuming Sauron is not allowed:
Ar-Gimilzor-> Ar-Pharazon-> (Elendil->) Isildur-> Elrond-> Gimli

Elentirmo-> Aldarion > Galadriel > Grima > Galmod

Aldarion knew Galadriel?

According to UT they met close to Tharbad - At that stage of Celeborn and Galadriels life they lived en Eregion...

Ah that is true... I had forgotten. Good work then! Lead on!

Marigold ---> Ivorwen

Marigold-> Sam-> Aragorn-> Gilraen-> Ivorwen
or perhaps
Marigold-> Sam-> Elrond-> Ivorwen

Both looks good to me :)

Your thread...

Frumgar-> Orophin
No elves.