Don't forget Mac.

At this point, I would be willing to vote Rune, Ka, or maybe Eonwe. I don't want to vote Zil right now - I don't know how much I believe that both he and Lhuna were involved in the Kit thing in the same way.

Hi I am reading through the thread right now, but thought I would comment on Shastas long posts (don't know if my own quotes are included)

I guess I can see how arrive at that conclusion, if of course you don't understand the context of the posts.

Anyways, let me explain. The first post is me reacting to the events of the day as I read through the thread. It might be a short post, but it was actually put together over the course of 45 minutes or so.

My post 10 minutes later is a summarization of my top suspects.
You see when I decide who to cast my vote for, i normally take into account what has happened through out the game, and not just during the last day.

So put simply the posts wasn't intended to align 1:1 or be a continuation of one another, as they did not deal with the same issues.

Hum. Could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

:d

That seems too easy, but I think we have to lynch one of them toDay, it makes too much sense to not give it a try.

What happened to that post of mine? All the letters have become lowercase and I can't edit any of them to be uppercase.

So this might go completely opposite of what I've been championing for with the QT for days. But I do want to put a reminder that we still have the living seer, so while this is an unexpected choice for the QT, they have no known evidence to Rune's guilt or innocence. Same applied to Lhuna yesterday.

It might turn up beneficial/we find out more from it tomorrow, but for today, it's too much of a turnaround to make in 2 hours.

I'm sorry for my lousy participation toDay, I still feel awful and can't stick around. I've skim-read the thread but that's about it, and don't have the brain capacity to think about Rune, so I'll go with -

++ Inziladun

Mainly because of his compatibility with both known wolves (see below). Also his reactions to being implicated by the possible attempt to save Huin on D2 - paranoia/defensiveness re: how bad it made him look, then after Sally had come under a significant amount of fire for similar behaviour, he essentially changes tack and tells people to lynch him if they like. Then comes in minutes into the next Day with a ready-made case against Lommy for her involvement in lynching Sally. None of this sits right with me.

Apologies again, I really hope to be able to contribute more toMorrow (in whichever thread).

It must have read : D as an all uppercase post. During the Sally deadline, I responded to a post where she said she was going to hunt me with "DON'T." and it autocorrected it to "don't.", so I think all caps isn't allowed.

All it would have taken is an early innocent vote for Rune, three baddies pile on that, votes are tied, Lhuna breaks it. It's possible.
But assuming the innocents voted wolf!Rune conventiently happens to work in your favour, doesn't it?


Then again, I wonder whether calling him Rune Son of Bjarne, Son of Marx might indicate that the final vote was Legate's, as he has referred to Rune and Kath as Marx and Kant a few times. Though I guess it might also be a joke from Nog.

For one thing, it means innocent-Zil. Hmm.

Thought exercise - who's the most likely to be innocent in Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

I think Rune - I wasn't really considering him until the QT vote.

I think Eonwe. I've been interpreting Ka's latest posts as trying to tie you and Eonwe together to implicate you, but she could plausibly be doing that even if *both* you and Eonwe are innocent, just to try to get at least one of you lynched.

:o

I don't think that's how the math works.

Innocent (Rikae, for example) votes Rune.

Huin/Lhuna/G55 all jump on and vote Rune.

Mac/Sally/Kit/Legate/Lalaith can vote someone else as a bloc of 5.

Now, if they didn't do that, I guess it's possible, but still, they must have known many of us were taking the QT vote as innocent-based.

Hmm. Maybe. I think Ka's lack of talking much about Eonwe is telling, though.

Although I haven't looked specifically to see how much Ka said about Rune either.

They managed to vote for Lhuna yesterDay, I think we have to assume they're working together fairly well and are sending us very deliberate signals.

Especially after their advice was taken yesterDay, with dramatic results.

x/d with Lottie, who makes the same point

You know it doesn't.

But I get why you would say that.

I expected to get a bit of attention today, but honestly I thought it would have regarding the timing of my vote yesterday (considering Lhuna turned out being an infector). Really surprised as both Legate and Lalaith to be reasonably convinced of my innocence.

I'm going to make Lommy happy and ++Ka - I don't see myself going much of anywhere else after the events of the last couple hours.

Right, I was working with the wrong number (omitting Mac).


I'm not ready to vote Rune quite yet, but I could go with either of Ka or Eönwë (duly noted about Morgoth's Breath).

That's a good point, but probably not in the way you meant. If Legate and Lalaith were convinced to vote for you, they must know something in the QT that we don't in the living thread.

Such as?

That's an honest question, by the way, because I can't see what they could know that we don't. They were right on Lhuna yesterday, sure, but they aren't - can't be - infallible.

A slip by Huinwolf seems the most likely.

Indeed. Unless Huey and Lhuna have been careless, the QT mainly has to work with what we have here.

x/d with Lottie

Just skimmed and wanted to check in for a moment (will be back properly in about half an hour). I've been suspecting Rune for Days.

++ Rune

I'm also very suspicious of anyone trying to immediately discredit/minimize what the QT has said - obviously, the innocents don't know anything, so reasonable doubt is merited, but I don't like these two reactions:

So we currently have:

Kath--> Inzil
Greenie--> Inzil (2)
Shasta--> TheKa
Steve--> Rune

That's a consistent reaction from those two, for what that's worth:

In the hands of the innocent dead, I can't see any of the evil-doers being careless. I don't know Huey that well, but G55 and Lhuna are probably having a blast posting nonsense, not at all related to anything that's going on here.

I don't think it's such an outlandish reaction when they vote somebody you felt very much was innocent.

Eonwe's vote looks very easy and bad. That sort of solidifies my choice.

I'll still be here posting some nonsense for tomorrow.

++Eonwe

The Last Will and Testament.
 

A couple of comments on stuff that has been said today.


I have long maintained my suspicion of Brinn, but Lommy makes a good point here. Though taking recent events into consideration I would like to stress that an innocent QT thread is clearly quite capable of mistakes.

I love this bit from Kath. Eönwë is once again taking a weird stance regarding Kitana, and she rightly points out the flaw in his argument. This and his continued suspicion of her is very peculiar indeed.

I very much doubt the mod would intentionally give us clues like that.

Hm. Is it just me or has Pitchwife's posting generally been kinda... scrambled toDay compared to usual? Like a wolf feeling the tide is turning against his pack? I mean, I still consider him likely innocent for the crucial Huine vote, but being unlikely wolf-on-wolf isn't the same as being impossible wolf-on-wolf

:confused: Why does this make me happy?

Before the QT vote toDay I would have said "Rune" without a doubt. Now I need to reconsider what I'm basing my trust of Rune on. Personally I feel it's a bit of a coin toss between Ka and Eönwë. Eönwë could be my classic type of kneejerkily misinterpreting someone innocent as suspicious in ww, Ka on the other hand could still be eccentric good instead of eccentric evil. But that being said, I'm still more suspicious of both of them (and of Zil) than I am of Rune.

Also I don't "distrust" the QT vote. I just don't think they know so much more than us that we should follow them without a question, or that their vote couldn't be tampered with by the evil side (even though that's quite unlikely). There's a difference.


edit: xed with the last three

Because I didn't hold my vote to the end, Lommy. :p

Awwwwww how tragic I didn't even realise that! Good boy! :D

Gonna have a quick look at Rune's posts, but currently would still feel better about Zil, Ka or Eönwë.

(Back, sorry, trying to plan and coordinate with family stuff.)

That's thoughtful, but if I look suspicious and you have evidence to identify so, then go for it. I'm not holding it against anyone for going ahead and playing the game.

Honestly, part of me is really still curious about the QT (as much as some of you wish I'd stop talking about mechanics... Sorry!), so if I end up there so be it.

Gotta keep the tradition alive friend.

... Hmmm.


As for the QT vote... not expecting that and I don't really see why Rune.

I'd certainly hope so, the innocent should hold majority and be suspicious of anything the other three say. To be zany, considering the two wolves can PM each other, they could have decided to push some other choice than Rune knowing the rest besides G55 would do the complete opposite, but that's a reach. I'd hope the majority would have considered that factor, because three shouldn't be able to overthrow that much of a majority.

I'd also assume that if anything, the innocents are going to trust any past insights their two gifteds could have, which might mean either Kit and Sally voted elsewhere, or at least one of them suspects Rune. Neither of them is the Seer, so at the end of it, whatever information they have isn't sure proof on roles. It would be down to the feeling of trust that innocents are going to want to back their gifteds.

This makes very little sense to me. How do you determine which players are "opposite" choices in a way that you can manipulate with? And why would any ordo trust a known hunter/ranger's word any more than a known fellow ordo's?

Not really a Ka-alysis, but just a point...on her vote yesterday.

Strongly agree with Lottie's take about Ka's vote for Lhuna yesterday. Technically there could be a wolf-on-wolf vote anywhere to a pack bold enough. I prefer to not look at the wolf-on-wolf votes as the most suspicious, but agree that Ka's vote has that look of wolf-on-wolf. She waffles a bit on on Lhuna doesn't bring up any more suspicions against her, and votes based on trust of the QT.

It was an early vote and what makes it look a good spot for wolf-on-wolf is that she vote Lhuna, but doesn't give really any more information to use against Lhuna.

Unfortunately not. But could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Shasta? Maybe. If both of you are trying to pin each other to me and I turn out to be innocent, doesn't that make your suspicion unfounded, thereby giving yourself a way out of suspecting each other?