Good answer, tom bombariffic (and nice nickname, by the way), but the Stonehearted Dwarf Smith gets it.

Go ahead, Telchar. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

OK - Here we go:

Shadowfax
Arod
Windfola
Snowmane
Firefoot

Arod was a pony.

I think not...

Smaller than Hasufel, yet a horse.



And the most precise and concluside:
So no go - sorry

Only Snowmane did not bear two riders at some point?

That is correct Turambar [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Go on!

Tolkien seemed to like that two-on-a-horse thing; perhaps an obscure refernce to the Templars? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

OK I'll try to think of a new one.

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Please refrain from giving long quotes or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games. That is not the purpose of this forum.

If I tell people that they have given a wrong answer I usually also give them the reason that thay are wrong else people can continue on a wrong track or with misleading information, causing more wrong guesses. In other cases I tell people that they have made a good guess. I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman.

Could you elaborate on why that is a problem?

NB: I could have asked you this in private Saucepanman, but I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong.

Certainly, Telchar.

The threads in this forum are for the playing of Quiz games, not discussion of Tolkien's works. By all means correct someone if they get something wrong, but this only requires a short sentence or two. There is no need for lengthy supporting quotes and/or argument. Were that to happen every time an incorrect statement was made on these threads, then the games themselves would become lost in the detail and the threads would become prematurely long. That is why lengthy corrections, which not only take up space themselves but may also provoke similalry lengthy responses, are to be discouraged.

If a brief correction does (or is likely to) develop into a discussion, then (if it is worth continuing) that discussion can be taken to PM or (better still) the Books or Novices/Newcomers forum (as appropriate).

I am not saying that the Quiz Room should not be for learning. Indeed, on the contrary, the opportunity to learn more about Tolkien's works (mainly thriugh researching answers and seeing the answers given by others) is, to my mind, one of its key attractions. What I am saying, though, is that discussion should be kept to a minimum so that it does not start obscuring the games, and that includes detailed explanations of why someone has got something wrong. A simple correction will suffice.

I agree that it is useful to have the opportunity to explain these guidelines for the benefit of all. But, if anyone has any further comments on what I have said, please PM me. Enough space has been taken up on this thread.

I hope that clarifies matters. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Sorry to be a smarty pants, but wouldnt this disagreement actually count as an example of the afforementioned lengthy discussions?

I'll go back to my corner..

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

True, very true.

Anyway, how about a new question?

Bombariffic (and he's got his thinking cap on)

My lips are sealed while we wait for Turambar to continue this thread. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

If Arod wasn't a pony, then all you need to say is something like 'no, Arod was a horse'. You don't need to back it up with umpteen quotes from the books; I believe you!

true, writing an essay dosen't make your post any more valid, but I can also see saucepan man's point. So let's all stop being so hasty, and get on with the quiz, because arguing like filthy orcs isn't why we're here, brum ra-room.

In the meantime, I'm having trouble thinkig of an OCO - if someone else has one, please post.

Bat
Butterfly
Squirrel
Ram
Bear
Horse
Thrush
Crow
Moth

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

A wild shot in the dark, but is it butterfly and squirrel, because the others were able to carry messages, speak, or showed some sign of higher intellegence?

Or not...

EDIT: OH! Ive seen a vague connection..lots of them have something to do with Mirkwood, living in or around it..something like that. Apart from that, I'm stumped. Anyone else?

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

Butterfly or Squirrel, because all of the others, in some way or form, influenced the fate of Middle-earth.

Bat -- (Thuringwethil in the Silmarillion)el
Ram -- (The husband of Tar-Ancalimë discovered her while she was herding sheep and rams)
Bear --- (Beorn)
Horse -- (Shadowfax, Arod, Hasufel, etc.)
Thrush -- (the Thrush in the Hobbit, who helped Bard kill Smaug)
Crow -- (Roac son of Carc, who was also in the Hobbit)
Moth -- (rescued Gandalf)

Not to discourage anyone, but you are a little far off to the West or to the east.....

All right then, Horse, because all the others lived in Mirkwood, or could be found in Mirkwood.

Right OCO Finwe, but not the reason Im looking for, sorry [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Is the reason that Horse was the only one that didn't play a part in The Hobbit?

But what about the ponies, and Gandalf's white horse? And Beorn's horses?

Finwe is getting close and ABA almost gives it away with his comment.... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Horse, as it is the only one that plays a part in the hobbit and LOTR?

That not it either [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] sorry


Forget LOTR and concentrate on The Hobbit

*thinks furiously* Errrrrm...Oooh! Being to lazy to actually check this, but are horses and ponies the only animals to be mentioned in every chapter of The Hobbit?

Worth a try..

No thats not it either... getting colder.


I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out??? [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

Hint?

Hint? - Yes it was.... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Let me repeat:

er...dunno what to make of that clue...all are black in colour except the white horse?

Excactly Bombariffic ;o)

In the Hobbit there's no mention of any black horse - all the others does however come in black.

Please continue...

wow, didn't expect that!

Ok, I'll try to think of something fiendishly difficult for you lot...

Bombariffic

*suddenly notices something*


*evil looks* His? No, I'm a her.. thank you ^_^

Please accept my utmost apology... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

here goes

warg
spider
dragon
goblin

off you go! (I hope you don't mind me using goblin as a creature!)

Bombariffic

Spider because all of the others served a Dark Lord at some point (either Morgoth or Sauron).

[ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

What about Ungoliant and Shelob?

Errrm...I think it is...warg, because theyre the only ones that could be descirbed as "dumb beasts", for want of a better espression..you know what I mean..theyre only doing what theyre trained to do, the others have more their own will of things?


Oooh! Or, is it Goblin, because its the only one A Dark Lord made by corrupting something fair, as opposed to just using an already existing animal?

Good answers, but unfortunately not what I'm looking for...

Keep going!