Bah. I'm at work right now, and expecting an appointment in a few minutes (:p @ Lommy), so I need to go ahead and vote.

I wanted to give Shasta the benefit of the doubt and entertain some other possibilities, but no one else really looks as potentially bad at the moment.


He's "okay" with Pitch there, despite the earlier suspicion of him.

Now suspicious of Greenie.

Votes Pitch. Because he wasn't talking of the Cobbler?

Well, then:

++Shasta

Not a lock by any means, but no one else jumps out as much.

x/d with all since # 77

hm, have been getting phone-calls all night, uhm Osanwe Kenta calls I mean, and never really had time for a closer look at people... Would rather see Shasta than Lottie go though...

Okay. A hastily gathered "impressions-list" for now.

Most probably will not vote toDay(unless something drastic happens)

Ozban - newbie-pass, with quite a nice performance thus far
Glirdan - is kind of hypernervous when a wolf and doesn't look like that right now
Loslote -tends to get lynched early on most of the time; she seems to act suspiciously "by nature".

Eönwë - only came in, no idea as now, subject to change when he posts.

I'd lean not voting toDay at least on the possible suspicions I could have right now.

Legate of Amon Lanc - someone said he was wishy-washy (or something), I'd say he's explaining everyhing too much - and doing Legate 360's...
Boromir88 - acts a bit weird but maybe it's just this "new Boromir" we've seen in a few last games?

Total quetionmarks but would love to see more... (they have said things anyway)

Nerwen
A Little Green

Somewhat weary of or could vote...

Pitchwife - I'm a bit worried about his defencive-thoroughness, like there was a case to proof against Shasta's odd (bordering ridiculous) suspicions.
Shastanis Althreduin - makes me uneasy with his odd suspicions on Pitchie and all that jazz with Lottie (of the two I find Shasta more suspicious).

A bit anxious about these: they have been around, have posted but I still can't form an opinion on them... maybe because they haven't said anything? Prove me wrong!
skip spence
wilwarin538
Inziladun

I'd rather vote one of the last five toDay.

EDIT: X'd from my last post onwards

Read what you quote, please. Shasta said 'least okay', as in 'most not-okay', so whatever he's done, contradicting himself isn't among it. Mistake, or twisting words?
Not that I disagree so much with the vote itself...

Fair thought, There are quite a few "submarinish" guys out there. That's surely worth considering. Don't they have time? Or they just stay low purposefully?

Oh screw it! this is too much for my mind to analyze.

Don't really see how that's possible at this point.

As stupid as it would be (and I totally agree that the scenario I'm about to throw out there is highly unlikely at this stage in the game, but not unheard of), it is possible that they are doing just that.

A Lottiewolf and Shastawolf would be bold enough to throw one or the other under the bus on Day 1 if it actually came down to saving their own skin. I've been a victim of that before myself. :rolleyes:

However, as I said, the possibility and likelihood of that being the actual case is rather slim.

I am still inclined, however, to believe that at least one of the two is a Wolf.

At this point, I am more inclined to believe it to be Shasta.

When Lottie started accusing him, he became rather defensive, but it did not seem like an innocent trying to save himself.

It seems a little too aggressive to be an innocent trying to save himself.

Here are the next three post exchanges between him and Lottie:

Lottie also brings up the fact that he is being aggressive in his response.

Also, his accusation of Pitch at first is very playful banter.

Later, when he mentions his suspicions of Pitch again, he says:

There is no actual reasoning behind it and is okay with Nerwen (hmmmm....perhaps we've been barking up the wrong tree on who his fellow co-hort could be?)

He's gone (due to sleeping) for a few hours and when he comes back, all he has is this:

Nothing mentioning Pitch whatsoever.

Disappears again (although gave us the note saying he would be gone for most of it) and when he comes back he FINALLY gives some reasoning of suspecting Pitch.

All of that was Pitch's first post of the Day, most of which seems like IC banter. Seems to me like a Shastawolf trying to latch onto an easy prey.

And then his vote:

He is voting based purely off Pitch's first post without taking the time to actually go through the other posts and seeing what else Pitch had posted.

So, without further ado, I know who I am voting for:

++Shasta


I will be around till the end of Day.

EDIT X'ed with everyone since end of Page 2

So who are you guys leaning at, Nogrod, Pitch and Ozzy?

It was more of a metaphor trying to say that "convince us" you're making an effort... :)

EDIT: X'd with skip... heh...

I'm here, I'm here! I'll skim through and try to make a mostly logical choice.

15 minutes than, right?

Yep, it's 15min to go. :)

This should be right...

Lottie -> Shasta
Shasta -> Pitch
Legate -> Lottie
Inzil -> Shasta 2
Glirdy -> Shasta 3

My appt. is late, naturally. And you're right, I misread that. I probably would still have voted for him, though.

You know, I'm fine with ...

++Shasta

15 minutes? :eek: Does anyone have the tally? I feel most like voting Shasta right now, wouldn't object to voting someone nice and noncommittal either - except that lynching Shasta could give us more to analyze toMorrow, given that almost everyone has said something about him and he had some pretty strong interactions with a few villagers.


EDIT: x-ed since Lommy, thanks Nog for the tally!

Actually, Zil's sketchy and bordering-on-skewed presentation of Shasta makes me have second thoughts now...

Still, Shasta looks most shady to me, and I think finding out his alignment will tell us something about several people (including Lottie, but not only her). So:

++Shasta

Á vala Manwë!

EDIT: x-ed from #85 down

I'm back too, been trying with a vote count...

Pitch
Lottie
Shasta - 5

Uhhhh I'm not too happy with any of those. I think I'm going go random with this vote

Edit crossed with everyone since Nog's. And adjusting the vote count.

???

Of those who have gathered votes thus far I think Lottie more probably innocent and Shasta looking the most suspicious. Of my five candidates for voting I'd probably wish to see wilwa and Pitch toMorrow with better time to discuss with them.

With Skip I'm not sure if that was a joke or is he deliberately doing something there - which would be a bit to drastic for a wolf... heh, reading the general feeling wishing to lynch Ozban? Really Skip?

Umm, Nog, I believe he addressed the question to Nogrod, Pitch, and Ozzy.

On a matter of principle, I'm throwing my vote away since this lynch seems set and I don't want to be apart of this runaway lynch Shasta accord.

++Nerwen

Not that it makes any difference now..

++ Shasta

Because of what I've said before, don't have the time or energy to repeat everything.


EDIT: x-ed with Boro

Oh sorry Nogrod it was just sloppy phrasing/grammar...

Was just curious how you guys would vote.

"Nog, Pitch and Ozzy, who are you leaning towards voting for"

...would have been more comprehensible

Lottie -> Shasta
Shasta -> Pitch
Legate -> Lottie
Inzil -> Shasta 2
Glirdy -> Shasta 3
Skip - > Shasta 4
Pitch - > Shasta 5
Boro - > Nerwen
Greenie - > Shasta 6

EDIT: Added Greenie's vote

Okay. I hate bandwagons but Shasta is topping my suspicions. And it seems the result is already clear. So carrying my load of the burden.

++ Shasta


Ozzy? Have I lost something here? Who is Ozzy if not Ozban?

A quick note: if Shasta is a wolf, I doubt Boro is. Or I don't know actually. Could be. Agh, I'm flip-flopping, looks like it's bed-time. :rolleyes:


EDIT: wow, x-ed since my last

It may be stupid, or completely out of the league, but...

+ + Legate

To clarify, which I feel I should, at least rudimentary:
I can't be sure of anybody. Eventhough Shasta and Lottie seem strange, mostly that Shasta's opinions of Pitch which seem to strangely fluctuate, (ad. Glirdan's post above).
Legate attacks, but always leaves himself some "escape path", he's too eager to back down. He does seem to try not to offend anyone. Eventhough it's not what I mean exactly, He's way too agreeable (or alibistic, your choice).

Anyway, my sixth sense tells me to vote for him.

I hurry to pub now. But will be back soon.

Later...

So....after quick skim.

Pitch looks fine to me, especially the one that he did in response to one of Shastas (sorry, forgot to quote it and dont want to waste time finding the post number)

Lottie kind of always seems suspicious on Day 1s, it's like a natural thing for her, so I'd rather not vote her.

Shasta, the only thing I don't like is the post where he quoted Pitch and highlighted stuff, cause like Pitch pointed out, none of the highlighted stuff looks bad to me.

Gah, so I don't want to vote any of them, and I haven't had time to look closely at anyone else, and I have 4 minutes. I hate Day 1s, everyone always looks fine to me.

So I'm going to do this:

++Wilwa

Cause I've never done it before, and this seems like a good oppurtunity to.

x'ed with a bunches

Let this not be forgotten toMorrow if Shasta is innocent!

Ok, well I've kind of caught up, but I had to skim read most of the second page.

There's a few comments I'd like to make before anything else.

1. Why Shasta? I really don't find him suspicious at all. I mean, yes, he's defensive, but he just seems like normal innocent Shasta. In fact, he just seems like an easy Day 1 lynch, and I think it's quite likely that one of the Shasta-voters is a wolf who had to vote early.

But then again, this is worse:
Saying your about to make a random vote is never good, because it seems like your covering yourself against any future effects that might have. So even a little suspicion right now is better than voting randomly.


2. Secondly, all this Cobbler-talk is quite interesting- especially seeing as some people seem like they're changing what their saying to seem more innocent and in line with the crowd.

As for my opinion, I think we should just vote for who seems suspicious, because generally the cobblers seem even more suspicious than wolves, so we'll probably lynch them before the wolves- though obviously it would be much better for us if the wolves kill the cobbler first.

edit: x-ed since Nog's #92

Deadline
 

Stop posting.

Shasta has been lynched. Narration will be up in half an hour or so...

Well, since Shasta's going to vote and there's no chance of changing anything, I might as well not vote, especially since I haven't really got any true suspicions yet.

edit: x-ed with Moddess and finished sentence

The very same. I'd though it was a selfevident nick. Bat-references not withstanding.

Night2 falls
 

So they sat down and talked and accusations slowly gathered speed, until when the hint of light grew almost undectable half of the Elves were convinced Shastanis, one of the hunters, was evil.

"He is a strange guy," Loslote said in a quiet voice.
"Yes, just keeps to himself," echoed Inziladun.
"Poor boy! It must be his lack of parents and proper upringing that made him like that," speculated Glirdan.
"It's not the lack of parents that makes him disturbing," said Pitch. "It's the snake."
"Yes," said Green decisively. Which such a likeness to an opossum, she was secretly afraid Shastanis's pet snake might eat her.
"So we shall kill him to save ourselves and his soul," Nogrod concluded solemnly.

Upon hearing his doom, Shastanis stood up quietly. He knew there was no changing the opinion of his companions, yet he wondered...

"I believe you are making a grave mistake," he said quietly. "You can still stop this folly."
"No one can stop this folly," Wilwarin said. "I wish I was safely in the Halls of Mandos..."
"That's where he shall be soon!" the girl Loslote cried out and everybody turned to her. She said: "There is a crack on the floor next to the place I sleep. I do not know how deep it is, but it is deep. Let us cast him there."
"Yes," confirmed Inziladun, and that was all that was needed for Glirdan and Skip to grasp Shastanis and lead him to the direction Loslote was pointing to.

"Please, let me have my last word to you, my friends..." Shastanis said, but Pitch covered his mouth with his hand. "Enough of these evil words, let him be silenced for ever."
Shastanis tried to fight, but Glirdan and Skip held onto him and dragged him to the edge of the crack, the pit in a pit.
The small green snake, hiding until now, darted out from the layers of Shastanis's folded hood, but even quicker than it, the veteran hunter Green snatched it and broke its neck. "Done with the devil," she muttered.
Shastanis let out a wail that was barely muffled by Pitch's hand.
"Let Mandos judge you fairly," Nogrod said. "Namárië."
And with those words Glirdan and Skip pushed Shastanis to the pit.

He screamed, and then there was sickening thump.

"I think he's dead," Ozban said quietly.

Just at the same moment, they heard a few broken notes echoing from the pit. With sickening hearts, they recalled they had heard the tune before, last night and it had brought a little comfort to their nightmare-ridden sleep. Now it was fading away.

"I... I am sorry... so sorry I failed you..." they heard Shastanis's voice echo from the bottom of the pit. Every syllable was an effort for the dying man. "I... I was meaning to tell you that... that last night... I discovered... in a dream... that..."

There was a silence.

"That what?" Boromir shouted.

Only the dulled echo of his words answered. The dreamer of dreams once know as the Seer was gone.


~*~


Night2 has started. Wolves, feel free to start PMing and you and the remaining gifteds may send your picks. Everybody shush up on the thread until dawn!

The Dead
Thinlómien (mod) - murdered in cold blood on Night1
Shastanis (seer) - cast to the pit in the pit on Day1

The Living
Green - veteran hunter with a striking resemblance to an opossum
Boromir - incompetent gatewarden
Eönwë - hunter
Glirdan - local batty scholar
Inziladun - weaponsmith
Legate - jeweller with an affinity to the colour white
Loslote - young tag-along girl with frizzy hair
Nerwen - young and impatient hunter who makes animal statues of wood and likes the colour green
Nogrod - narcoleptic master-hunter
Ozban - young and naive hunter and admirer of Finrod Felagund
Pitch - furrier
Skip - an admirer of Finduilas's
Wilwarin - hunter

Day2 Dawns
 

Once again, the three tormented souls slipped away to conspire in the silent darkness. The coward sat long awake, wishing she could see or hear something and mortally afraid. Then she too fell asleep. The Hunter slept with her dagger at hand, and the Ranger left her place quietly, wrapped in the cloak she had woven out of her hair. When people had gone to sleep, she had memorised where one of them had laid down and now she crept to him. She could hear his steady breathing: he was already asleep. With a small smile on her lips, she draped her cloak lightly around him. He would be safe tonight, she would take care of that. She sat down and would have watched him sleep if she had only been able to see anything in the pitch dark.

Hours passed, and her concentration started to fail. She was tired. When she was just about to doze off, she heard the barely noticable steps of something big and soft-footed. Suddenly she was all alert. She could hear sniffing noises very close to her and then, the yelp of a scared animal.

"There is something here," she heard an uncertain voice say, definitely Elvish but wolvishly distorted. She couldn't recognise it although it did sound familiar.
"Oh just get on with it and kill him," another voice said, similar to the first one.
"I don't want to. There's some strange power that scares me," the first voice said, defiant.
The Ranger heard two more sets of soft wolf-paws approach. She kept still, hoping her magic would conceal her as well as it protected the sleeping one.
Sniffing sounds. "Enchantments of the West," a third voice said, one that had not spoken before. There was fear in his voice.
"There is some power against us we haven't foreseen," the first voice said, and edge of despair in it.
"You are right..." the second voice said grudgingly. "Let's sleep on it, I do not dare touch this one tonight."

The soft sound of the paws moved away. In the dark, the Ranger smiled. She had scared them away. For a while more, she sat there, then she gently took her cloak from the Elf who was still sleeping, blissfully unaware his life had been within a hair's breadth from being taken to him tonight. Quietly, she resumed her sleeping place by the walls of the pit and had a few hours of sleep before dawn.


~*~


The Dead
Thinlómien (mod) - murdered in cold blood on Night1
Shastanis (seer) - cast to the pit in the pit on Day1

The Living
Green - veteran hunter with a striking resemblance to an opossum
Boromir - incompetent gatewarden
Eönwë - hunter
Glirdan - local batty scholar
Inziladun - weaponsmith
Legate - jeweller with an affinity to the colour white
Loslote - young tag-along girl with frizzy hair
Nerwen - young and impatient hunter who makes animal statues of wood and likes the colour green
Nogrod - narcoleptic master-hunter
Ozban - young and naive hunter and admirer of Finrod Felagund
Pitch - furrier
Skip - an admirer of Finduilas's
Wilwarin - hunter


Day2 has stated. Wolves, stop PMing. Hunter, you may change your pick if you wish. Everybody, you may talk now.

At least some good bit of news in that mess of a voting yesterday. :rolleyes: *raises spear in toast to the Ranger*

Well, some justice! It's not so dark anymore.

And if the ranger keeps up that work s/he can take the task of our seer in the Days to come! One innocent revealed already.

Oh, sorry, my C.S.I narcolepsy again (it's a commercial break right now). Back soonish...

Great thing, at least this! I must say the yesterDay's complete failure was not very much boosting the hope, but a Night-save is good. I think this had hindered the Wolves quite a lot. Either they have to go for the same person next Night, or just go for somebody else, risking that the same thing might happen again. Ha! I can only think of one downside for the lack of Night-kill: we cannot make any conclusions from it. But I think this is certainly better than a Night-kill: we have basically one Day more.

So about yesterDay... I am still disappointed that by the time the real conversation started, I wasn't able to be around very much, and unfortunately, it will be similar toDay (I will have to vote early - see the admin thread), though I hope that the discussion at least has already started yesterDay so now it will already be in flow while I am here...

The worst thing about the Seer-lynch yesterDay is that it was totally random (obviously, as half of village voted for him), so basically we don't even have any clear lead from the lynch. I think I should look at the voting tally, or somebody should make it (I think Glirdy made one yesterDay). If there are people I am suspicious about, they are especially among the "throwaway voters". Of course, once there was basically unisono lynch, there wasn't much of a thing to do even for an innocent who disagreed: you could either join the mob or just cast your vote elsewhere. From the top of my head, I must say that wilwa seemed okay to me from those people who voted randomly - she sounded genuinely frustrated, while Ozban sort of stood out as the negative example - he voted while there was no real chance of lynching me, and was doing it in the sort of "normal" way, as if his vote could still accomplish something, but most of all with the sort of "alibistic" style the Wolves sometimes have, saying "my hands are clean from the blood of this one". Boro could be either way. Eönwë, who appeared like few minutes before DL and started contemplating on whom to vote, might have been genuine - seems he had a lot to catch up with.

I think there definitely was at least one Wolf among the Shasta-voters, trying to hide in the crowd (unless it was even Lottie who started it, for example). I don't like especially Glirdan and Skip there, their votes are in the sort of convinient place: somewhere in the middle, neither initiators, but still not just the "whatever random last nails to the coffin at the time when it doesn't matter anymore". I have been somewhat suspicious of those two already yesterDay, skip at least was the kind of a person who seemed to echo a lot of thoughts others said without adding much of his own. There was something that unnerved me about Glirdy, but I have to re-read his posts again, especially what he had said about the Lottie-Shasta thing.

And I am also not quite comfortable with Nogrod's vote - in fact, like I said yesterDay, I am not entirely comfortable with him in general - he seems to me a bit more calculative than he usually is as an innocent. Like, when he said "I suspect Shasta, and although I don't like bandwaggons, I will vote him" - that sounded a bit fake. I would have expected the innocent Nogrod to be sort of more, hmm, self-reflective, like, to ask himself: "Oh really? Is it right that I suspect him if all the village wants to lynch him?" And not to just shrug it like this. I would like to take a look at when he first started to suspect Shasta...

Okay, so now on to do it :) And on to see if people post...

EDIT: x-ed with people. But if people post something, I meant...

If I know Shasta he would have left at least one clue for us to the one dream he had. When he was the ranger he always left behind clues to his protections. Now the problem is just finding it.

Legate I have been voting in synch with my conscience. Eventhough my vote can't accomplish anything, I won't hide in the crowd, I'm not such a hypocrite. I'm not afraid to speak up and fight for what i believe.

As for the ranger, Te Saluto!

And cause everything is said,
Oz retires to his bed.

Good night, fellow corpses.