Rrrriight.... Evil? Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter? Who on Earth came up with the idea? They are fictions, stories to "cheat thee of a smile, or charm thee to a tear" according to old verse. So Tolkein wrote about wizards and hobbits, and Rowling researched black magic for her books, so what? There are nothing wrong with that, they are just a form of entertainment. People sometimes take the religious aspect of things a little too serious. They would even link up fictions with Satan (I haven't figured out what's wrong with him anyway.) Those voices are very disturbing, methinks. They add conflict to what was a perfect harmony. Sometimes I really think religion is the source of all evil. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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of course you aren't offending anyone, Theodric! Welcome to the downs, by the way, and never be afraid to share your opinions. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] It's quite funny that the Tolkien/Rowling debate has come up again. If I had taken interst earlier, I might have contributed a bit more, but I suppose I can still gift the discussion with my prescense (how pompous did that sound).
Theodric, we must remember that there is also a similiar book for the (in my mind) infamously brain-frying show The Simpsons. And the fact that Tolkien's works have extreme allegorical potential, compared to Rowling's books, which work on a very different level. Iarwain |
Did you not read the other replies? Personally I like your opinion. Just because they are yours and not someone ease’s. I tend to share the same opinions with my grandmother so that is why she pops up so much, and by the way welcome to the downs. Life is full of opinions some are right and some are wrong. You can't always see the difference and sometimes you can. Like Denther and Melea's burning of Rivendell in the Elrond's guest book, some can't see the humor in that( I won't give names) while other's can. I have a friend who thinks he is ulgier than the hind end of an orc. I personally think he is growing up wonderfully, but he still won't listen. This is all opnion.
This guy who ever he is; is reading too much into things. He has some misconstrued opinions of many things, especially the Christian faith. But I think that he will not be changed. But like I said this is a good place for expressing your opinions. Check out my posts here, you will see what I mean. [ June 07, 2003: Message edited by: Annalaliath ] |
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But you are starting to sound like the guy who ranted at us about the sinfulness of LOTR and HP. It's not good. (Though you didn't offend me.) Also, I was told from a reliable source that Rowling is of the Church of Scotland. So she at least professes to be a Christian. Whether she is or not I dare not say; only God can judge mankind truly. (Check out my sig.) Lots of love and God bless you all. Feel free to PM me if you have any bones to pick with me about this. ~ Elentari II |
Did i mention that I am going to send him about an email a day from one of my three emial adresses.... I think that he will never read any of them but still it is interesting to see if he responds. Did I mention that mental torture brings me joy?
And I think that everyone has braught to light all that there is to say on this subject. Now we are going to argue the same points over and over. Like I said before it is all just openions and intrepretaions. The lack of reaserch on his behalf is evedent and my bad spelling is a plauge upon humanity. If he is rioght then we are all going to hell. But then the God he worships is not the god he thinks He is. And if he is wrong(the most likly thing) then we are all okay, and the god of the Bible is the God of mercy , grace, and love. Onward... Maybe yes and Maybe no... |
Oh dear. I've found another problem with the guy's opinions. This is about rock music:
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OK, OK, not Tolkien related. My point is the man is clearly marching to his own tune, and forming his own little religion in which everyone but him is damned, and once damned has no chance of being saved- FORGIVENESS doesn't happen. [ June 07, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ] |
Lyra Greenleaf…. I could not agree more. I am sorry but Lyra Greenleafs reply has to be voted the best reply in ‘I don’t believe this’.
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Whew! Just finished the article. Someone has a good deal of rage against a society that hasn't accepted him or conformed to his views. His argument might do well if he delivered a tirade on something a tad more familiar to him. As others have stated, God's love is unconditional. It will never be taken away. It is not up to shortsighted humans to decide who is hellbound and who is not. Has he seen inside our hearts, read our intentions, lived with our daily emotions and struggles? No. Rather than ranting on how everyone who reads fairy-stories is hellbound, he should publish articles on why Occultism is evil on a more basic level. Perhaps it would make him understand that these books in themselves are not evil at all, but rather are pleasant stories that can (unfortunately) be taken the wrong way by foolish children who believe that magic such as displayed in them is real and become held by something that is utterly nonexistant.
Iarwain P.S. All of this can be countered easily by caring for your children and teaching them how to treat material like this in a way that will not lead to their utter demise. [ June 07, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ] |
Hey guys. Look, in this topic don't even mention my posts or quote anything from them. Pretend I never even looked at this argument. Stop making quotes to my post please. I've been getting PMs about it so forget I even said anything.
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This topic has been brought to my attention and it is plain that this debate is outside the realm of Middle-earth and Tolkien. I'm closing it and asking everyone to get back to Tolkien.
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This sounds like another person, late at night, who hasn't slept in a good week, writing about something they heard from television.
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Hmmm, this old topic was closed by the Barrow-Wight and must have accidentally been reopened during our move last year. I'm closing it again.
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