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Mithalwen 01-25-2014 06:28 PM

Well she did point the way.. and don't be mean.

Pervinca Took 01-26-2014 06:18 AM

I was actually really surprised that any such site would have Middle-earth names in its database. I suppose it must be attached to some kind of search engine. I have not done anything underhand. I acted upon curiosity, wondering if such a thing as an anagram maker existed online - I'm actually fond of cryptic crosswords and wordplay anyway, as well as Tolkienian puzzles - and admitted I had done so. Get over it.

Mithalwen 02-10-2014 04:56 PM

Elf-ish lord confused role with Elvish lord.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 02-17-2014 07:52 AM

Elrohir Anagram of role and Sindarin hîr

Mithalwen 02-17-2014 11:52 AM

Indeed. Over to you... :cool:

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 02-17-2014 04:11 PM

My head is too full of cryptic. The first thing I thought when I read that was 'uoy ot'

Uproar overwhelms regulation retreat for first to arrive

Mithalwen 02-17-2014 11:20 PM

Or you slipped to the other side of the mirror..

Pervinca Took 09-05-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Squatter of Amon Rûdh (Post 689285)
My head is too full of cryptic. The first thing I thought when I read that was 'uoy ot'

Uproar overwhelms regulation retreat for first to arrive

DWALIN!

Uproar is DIN, which overwhelms/swallows LAW in retreat (ie backwards). Dwalin was the first dwarf to arrive at the unexpected party.

Got stuck for ages using "rule" for regulation.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-16-2014 12:34 AM

I'm glad you persevered and you are, of course, spot on. Your turn.

Mithalwen 09-16-2014 08:01 AM

Where as I was stuck thinking of elves as first arrivals.

Pervinca Took 09-16-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 694448)
Where as I was stuck thinking of elves as first arrivals.

So was I; I think I thought of Dwalin a while ago, but couldn't find the letters for it.

Here goes, then:

Ladykiller loses a certain ambiance: a tautological carrier, he?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-17-2014 06:17 AM

I think this one is Lotho Sackville-Baggins

Ladykiller loses a certain ambiance: lothario - air = Lotho

a tautological carrier, he: Sackville-Baggins is a hyphenated compound of two words meaning the same thing, both bag related, hence tautological carrier.

Pervinca Took 09-17-2014 09:18 AM

Perfectly correct. Over to you.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-17-2014 01:55 PM

Have a go at this one

Flight without goal might end at the top or bottom

Pervinca Took 09-20-2014 04:22 PM

Just wondering if this might be The Winding Stair.

Having first pondered whether there were elvish names for things like the Flight of the Noldor, the idea of flight referring to stairs has just occurred to me.

Could "winding" sort of mean without a goal? Stairs can end at the top or the bottom. Or even both.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-22-2014 06:23 AM

Not that, I'm afraid. 'Winding' for 'without goal' is a bit of a reach.

Pervinca Took 09-22-2014 06:56 AM

OK. I was trying to remove the word "end" from a phrase in elvish I couldn't find for something like the Flight of the Noldor before I thought of stairs. So let's take a trip to Moria and try

The Endless Stair.

I suppose that kind of stair would stop at the top OR bottom, but not both.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-23-2014 11:20 AM

That's the case of stairs I wanted.

Pervinca Took 09-23-2014 11:23 AM

That's good, 'cos I don't know the ablative form. ;)

Try this one:

Tedious fellow mixes with humanity here.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-23-2014 02:14 PM

Amon Ereb

a bore and men mixed up.

Pervinca Took 09-23-2014 02:46 PM

Good try, and on the right lines, but no.

Pervinca Took 09-26-2014 04:41 AM

Hint: My clue didn't include an article, and I usually account for every single letter (Lotho Sackville-Baggins was an exception, because the "Sackville-Baggins" was just kind of referred to, with Lotho being the main part of the clue).

You might also want to rethink the "humanity" part of the clue.

Pervinca Took 07-04-2015 03:35 PM

Tedious fellow mixes with humanity here.
 
Please solve this! Amon Ereb was very close, but not the answer.

BORE was correct for tedious fellow (without the a that Squatter added), but rethink the 'humanity' part - what other things can be humanities? Think education ....

Mithalwen 07-06-2015 03:46 AM

Erebor?

Pervinca Took 07-06-2015 06:34 AM

Yes indeed! BORE mixed with RE (short for the Humanities subject, Religious Education).

Over to you!

Mithalwen 07-06-2015 10:23 AM

Ok try this

Starry warrior, taking direction, distorted shine above.

Pervinca Took 07-06-2015 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 700432)
Ok try this

Starry warrior, taking direction, distorted shine above.

Hmmm - trying to get from Elendil to Earendil by taking away L and adding something shiny ... but ray backwards leaves a y I can't dispose of.

My first starting point was Orion.

Mithalwen 07-06-2015 11:38 AM

Well L is the wrong direction for starters ..... have another think

Pervinca Took 07-06-2015 03:46 PM

Suspecting EREINION for the starry warrior, but can't quite find my way there. Have tried footling about with Orion plus NE for a direction, plus part of the word shine.

Mithalwen 07-06-2015 03:56 PM

Well it is always worth trying my beloved if I have set the clues... but as it happens not Ereinion

Pervinca Took 07-06-2015 03:59 PM

Ah - and I even got one letter closer by using NEE for north-east-east plus Orion and taking 'shine above' just to be what Starlight does ... but that still only got me as far as EREINOON. ;)

Galadriel55 07-06-2015 06:27 PM

Taking "starry warrier" as the straight clue, my first thought was Orion and my second was Menelmacar. No idea how that can fit though, and I'm too tired to try and figure it our from the cryptic side.

Mithalwen 07-06-2015 06:44 PM

You need a third thought.

Pervinca Took 07-07-2015 06:27 AM

My second thought was Menelvagor (sp?) but the v and the g were too problematic.

Starry warrior, taking direction, distorted shine above.

Maybe Telumehtar - because I guess 'lume' means shine in some person and declension, and ... maybe all of the letters minus the R might mean shine or shine above in Elvish?

Mithalwen 07-07-2015 09:34 AM

It is Menelvagor and the why isn't that tricksy.

Pervinca Took 07-07-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 700469)
It is Menelvagor and the why isn't that tricksy.

Hang on, there's GLEAM in there. I spent quite a while trying to get from GLEAM to MAGLOR on this one, too. So - what letters are left?

NEVOR - oooooohhh - N(orth) plus OVER for above. I did look for overs and gleams, but clearly didn't look hard enough in Menelvagor.

Pervinca Took 07-08-2015 12:32 PM

Next one, then.
 
He mingles twilight with doom, initially.

Mithalwen 07-08-2015 02:01 PM

Sorry, yes that is exactly the reasoning. I generally indicate if you need Elvish to solve the clue.

Ivriniel 07-08-2015 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 700524)
He mingles twilight with doom, initially.

"HE" + (mingles) "doom" (Umbar), with the 'He' positioned first=Turumbar

Pervinca Took 07-09-2015 04:43 AM

Good try!

However, you are forgetting the 'twilight' element. Also, it doesn't say that 'he' mingles with doom, but that 'twilight' does. The straight part of the clue doesn't usually contribute letters to the cryptic part; in general it kind of stands apart from it, so to speak.

It kinds of betrays the hobbitlike side of me that Turambar often makes me think of Carambars - candy bars that were always in the confectionery and cake shops when my parents started taking us to France for holidays. Probably not the effect Tolkien was going for at all. ;)


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