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arcticstorm 10-07-2005 06:23 PM

I thin, having the qwarves had made the show interesting, we need to keep them around until the end,
++Eowyn

mormegil 10-07-2005 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalaith
I agree we need to lose a dwarf but I would much rather we went for Gloin than Gimli. Gimli has done some really impressive ground-breaking work in the field of race relations,

Oh yes like that knife blade work he did among the orcs, I'm sure that improved Orc/Dwarves relations for years to come. What's worse not only did he slaughter so many innocent Orcs he gloated over it. Yes I did say innocent. They were a victim of circumstance, they were forced to do those deed whereas Gilmi did it out of choice and found enjoyment in the slaughter of species.

Vote Gimli

Folwren 10-07-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by arcticstorm:
I thin, having the qwarves had made the show interesting, we need to keep them around until the end,
++Eowyn
Uh...Hallo, chap! Welcome to the world of LotR Survivor! I don't know if you've been around much lately, but let me bring you into focus of the latest events...

Arctic, let's not pretend. Those Dwarves have not added the least amount of excitment or interesting to the show. If you wanted excitement and interest, you should've kept Eomer and Faramir around. That would have caused a lot of excitement and interest for a lot more time.

I can bet you that Eowyn will cause a lot more interest in this game than the Dwarves will.

You know...you people just don't make any sense to me at all.

-- Folwren

Formendacil 10-07-2005 09:23 PM

I have decided to go the easy way... I'm going to lambast Galadriel....

To start off with, Galadriel a known member of a most arrogant and high handed family. Included among her relatives are the isolationist Turgon and Orodreth, xenophobic King Thingol, and the totally arrogant Feanor (among others). An instant black mark against her name is the admiration that the utterly despicable Feanor had for her.

The next strike against Galadriel is rebellion against the established authority. Whatever version of her life you read, it's inescapeable that she rebelled against Manwe and fell under the Doom of the Noldor.

And speaking of versions...

There's clearly some funny business going on when it comes to her life's story. Two or three different accounts? The most recent looks like a coverup to explain how she fell under the Doom while still presenting her in an angelic light. Most dishonourable.

And then there is her flirtations... Some are just gross, like Feanor. Others are cruel, like playing Celeborn and Celebrimbor off each other, and then choosing the one more likely to bend to her will and play the obedient spouse. And, even after millennia of marriage, she goes and flirts with Gimli! It's no wonder Celeborn remained in Middle-Earth for a long time thereafter.

And then there is her well-known desire for power. As much as her detractors may say about her turning down the One Ring, the fact remains that she still WANTED it. The problem is that she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She wanted to be both Galadriel AND the ruler of Middle-Earth.

And then there is her cavalier treatment of her family. Not a word of mention concerning Celebrian! Not one! We here about Elrond and the children's reactions. But Galadriel doesn't bat an eye. Then there's the three grandchildren. Galadriel not only doesn't care if they don't choose immortality, she actively encourages it! Considering that Men and Elves meeting in the Arda Remade is nothing more than an estel on the part of the Elves, this seems to be very cavalier of her.

One could go on and on about Galadriel's failings. After all, what kind of treatment was she giving Boromir, Merry, and Pippin? I mean, BELTS? Frodo got the light of a Silmaril, for heaven's sake! No wonder Boromir went nuts! And what WAS she thinking, stirring up his mental pot into going Ring-hungry? Seems to me that she projecting her own desires onto his weaker mind...

Surely it is clear to all by now that the vote soon should be...

++Galadriel

Boromir88 10-07-2005 09:47 PM

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I'm pretty sure that Boromir is/was planning a followup game. Certainly, this has proven at least as addictive as Werewolf, and a lot zanier. I know that Survivor Silm was mentioned as a followup, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Survivor Hobbit...~Formendacil
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I just got in from finishing my paper route (stupid Northern Life!!! ) and as I was doing my paper route, I was thinking...what if we did a Silmarillion Survivor? I mean come on, we all had a few good laughs and lots of fun and one bacstabbing (coughmormcough ). What would be the harm in doing a Silm Survivor?~Glirdan
Anguirel's going to be heading that one. He was kind enough to propose the idea to me, so he will be doing Survivor Silm.

Glirdan 10-07-2005 09:49 PM

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Anguirel's going to be heading that one. He was kind enough to propose the idea to me, so he will be doing Survivor Silm.
Okie dokie Boro!! I was wondering if anyone offered for to do the Survivor Hobbit? If not, I'll glady take on that responsability.

Boromir88 10-07-2005 09:55 PM

Sounds good to me. ;)

mormegil 10-07-2005 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Glirdan
Okie dokie Boro!! I was wondering if anyone offered for to do the Survivor Hobbit? If not, I'll glady take on that responsability.

So long as it's moderately unbiased ;) :p

I'm assuming that we are only running one at a time and Silm was first.

Anguirel 10-08-2005 12:21 AM

++GLOIN

Arguments for his uselessness and snobbery pointed countless times before...

Glirdan, please wait till the Silmarillion Survivor is over before you start your Hobbit Survivor. Two survivors running parallel would be confusing and would overlap into each other irritatingly.

Celeborn and Elrond, by the way, will certainly be taking part.

It'll work slightly differently from this one. I've noticed that when ratings start to flag, reality TV shows often introduce new contestants. This is how the younger generations will be handled in the Silmarillion Survivor.

I will also write challenges and the results of them.

Finally, certain events or times based on the book will sometimes trigger arbitrary killing or introduction of new tribes (eg Dwarves, Men)

Lalaith 10-08-2005 02:51 AM

Excellent, it now looks like I can go for the dwarf I want off,


++GLOIN

Oh and wilwarin, thank you. I knew I hadn't misjudged you. Eowyn didn't do what her brother told her to do, either. :)

WaynetheGoblin 10-08-2005 05:31 AM

I will get back at you all. Just dont try to cheer me up . Sorry gloin. :( :( :(

Kath 10-08-2005 06:27 AM

Hmm hmm, voting time.

++GLOIN

Now I'll admit to not having a great deal of reasoning, but he did make Frodo fall off his cushions. Poor little Frodo who has already been through quite enough without a Dwarf causing him upset! But my real reasoning I think is that he has obviously never come and visited Bilbo, in all the years between the quest where Bilbo likely saved his life he has never come and visited. So Frodo has never met him. Mean I say, mean.

the guy who be short 10-08-2005 07:50 AM

Farewell, Gloiny Woiny. :(

++Eowyn, though it wont do much.

Glirdan 10-08-2005 08:53 AM

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Glirdan, please wait till the Silmarillion Survivor is over before you start your Hobbit Survivor. Two survivors running parallel would be confusing and would overlap into each other irritatingly.
Don't worry. I wasn't planning on starting it until yours was done anyway Anguriel. Love your ideas for how to run it BTW.

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++Eowyn, though it wont do much.
So your just voting for her to be different then? if so, vote for Gimli, that way we know that one Dwarf WILL be getting kicked off.

the guy who be short 10-08-2005 09:19 AM

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So your just voting for her to be different then? if so, vote for Gimli, that way we know that one Dwarf WILL be getting kicked off.
I think you don't understand my motives here. The guy who be short = dwarf = Won't vote for Gimli.

Eowyn appears to be the best opposition to Gloin. With a little divine intervention, perhaps he can pull through for another day...

Glirdan 10-08-2005 09:23 AM

I get it TGWBS. I see your motif. But Gloin's going home, no matter what.

mormegil 10-08-2005 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the guy who be short
I think you don't understand my motives here. The guy who be short = dwarf = Won't vote for Gimli.

Eowyn appears to be the best opposition to Gloin. With a little divine intervention, perhaps he can pull through for another day...

I hear you and answer your call for help

--Gilmi

++Eoywn


Dernhelm...what kind of a name is that!

The Perky Ent 10-08-2005 10:09 AM

++Eomer's Ghost


He came back as a wight, I tell you!

Firefoot 10-08-2005 10:17 AM

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Dernhelm...what kind of a name is that!
A meaningful and clever one - it means "helmet of secrecy." I'd say that fit Eowyn's situation pretty well!

Now those Dwarf names - what are they supposed to mean? Gloin, what's he trying to prove? That he glows in the dark? And Gimli, I think his name must mean "useless and meaningless."

And all you people trying to vote off Eowyn and Galadriel! This could get awfully boring if only men were left.

Glirdan 10-08-2005 10:20 AM

Completely agree with you Firefoot. Why on earth would we want to get rid of the only two women left on the island? The game would just become extremely dull.

mormegil 10-08-2005 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot
A meaningful and clever one - it means "helmet of secrecy." I'd say that fit Eowyn's situation pretty well!

Exactly, what is it with all the secrecy. I might add that this so called Dernhelm cannot be trusted with a simple command. "Eowyn you must stay here and rule the people while I am gone". Does she stay with the people? No, she abandons them for her own selfish pursuits. Her people needed her and the command was simple enough. She really should have been hung for disobeying a direct order from the King, yet she is praised. Who killed the Witch-King? She is a attention hog so she gets credit but she wouldn't have done anything without merry and where's his credit?

We need to get rid of this attention seeking, selfish, disobidient little deceiver.

Glirdan 10-08-2005 10:32 AM

Who ever said that Merry didn't get any praise? Of course he got praise!!! What did Sam say at the end of the RotK? He said that himself, Pip and Merry were getting all the praise and Frodo got no praise. So, why do you say he got no praise?

Lalaith 10-08-2005 10:38 AM

Ah yes. Eowyn the attention hog. What was about the first thing she said when she came out of her coma, after asking after Theoden?

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And what of the king’s esquire, the Halfling? Eomer, you shall make him a knight of the Riddermark, for he is valiant!’
It was just me, me, me, with her, wasn't it?

As for the women being voted off the island, I'm not in the least surprised, because let me tell you, this kind of thing *always* happens on reality tv. We've still got a long way to go in the equality battle, ladies.

Formendacil 10-08-2005 11:00 AM

Okay, I've had my chance at raging, so I'll give you a hand, Dude Who Be Vertically Challenged.

-- Galadriel, ++Eowyn

Firefoot 10-08-2005 11:36 AM

Hm, with Gloin only leading by two votes now, it seems this Eowyn faction is getting to big to ignore.

--Gimli
++Gloin


Gloin - 9
Eowyn - 6
Galadriel - 1

mormegil 10-08-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Glirdan
Who ever said that Merry didn't get any praise? Of course he got praise!!! What did Sam say at the end of the RotK? He said that himself, Pip and Merry were getting all the praise and Frodo got no praise. So, why do you say he got no praise?

Ah but you see that was merely in the shire and had nothing to do with his valiant slaying of the W-K.

Eowyn on the other hand when she found that she couldn't have Aragorn and the only way to have power for herself would be to marry her neighbor in the house of healing went after her with her barbed hooks for hands. Faramir was a poor pawn in her little charade to gain as much power as possible.

Oh and also Lalaith brings up a good point

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Originally Posted by Lalaith
As for the women being voted off the island, I'm not in the least surprised, because let me tell you, this kind of thing *always* happens on reality tv.

So in keeping with the way an actual reality TV show would go we must get rid of her. :p

Boromir88 10-08-2005 12:28 PM

++Gloin

The "G-group" is too strong and as I said before a dwarf needs to go today, though I'd prefer Gimli, Gloin will do.

Firefoot 10-08-2005 12:34 PM

Eomer declares he has no gift worthy enough for Merry's deeds upon the Mundburg. When he died, Merry was laid to rest beside the King Elessar himself. No, he didn't receive any honor at all.

:rolleyes:
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So in keeping with the way an actual reality TV show would go we must get rid of her.
Morm, I think we can accuse you of conforming. :p

mormegil 10-08-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot
Eomer declares he has no gift worthy enough for Merry's deeds upon the Mundburg. When he died, Merry was laid to rest beside the King Elessar himself. No, he didn't receive any honor at all.

What Eomer is basically saying is that he's too greedy to give anything decent away. So yes he doesn't get credit. And being laid next to some dead king! That's an honor? What about living honor.

Not conforming just being difficult.

Boromir88 10-08-2005 03:44 PM

After a tribal dispute between the elves and dwarves, Glorfindel and Galadriel took great joy in seeing Gloin go. Gimli was too busy trying to get closer to Galadriel, with Celeborn gone, to really care that his dad was the next to leave.

Elves/Dwarves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli

Hobbits
Merry
Pippin

Men/Rohan Lady
Eowyn
Hama

Oh my! 7 people remaining! We're getting to crunch time.

Kath 10-08-2005 03:48 PM

And still there is one too many in the Elf/Dwarf camp. Now looking at the people we have there is one Man and one Woman, Merry and Pippin who I think we can count as being practically a married couple so there again one man, one woman. Then we have Galadriel, Glorfindel and Gimli. One male too many. And since there is only one Dwarf left, by that reasoning

++GLORFINDEL

must go.

mormegil 10-08-2005 03:54 PM

Kath I see your agenda, all men must go. Well there are only 5 left so men it's time to stop women from taking over I say we go after Eowyn. I mean really who uses that odd combination of letters to spell your name. It's frightfully awkward to spell.

++EOWYN

Rune Son of Bjarne 10-08-2005 03:57 PM

I salute you Mormegil
 
++Eowyn

I have nothing new to say !

the guy who be short 10-08-2005 04:01 PM

++Eowyn, for her many lies.

arcticstorm 10-08-2005 04:01 PM

++Eowyn

Kath 10-08-2005 04:02 PM

Now morm that is not my agenda at all. I simply want a list where it's half and half. It's probably due to some weird obsessive compulsive thing, apparently that's why I like everything to be symmetrical :D

But anyway, in retaliation - you obviously just want all the men left on the island! Any self-respecting female must immediately vote against morm!

arcticstorm 10-08-2005 04:07 PM

In order to thin out the elf/dwarf tribe I will gladly changve my vote to Galadirel, but do not try to kick Glorfindel off the Island, he is probably the strongest person we have left here. I have never seen anyone else who is left destroy a balrog, and that is much harder to kill than the witch king.

wilwarin538 10-08-2005 04:15 PM

Eowyn must stay!!!

++Glorfindel

Come on girls! ;)

mormegil 10-08-2005 04:18 PM

If Glorfindel goes my wrath will be unleashed upon both Eowyn and Galadriel. Currently I am holding back on Galadriel and will help to get her into the finals.

Rune Son of Bjarne 10-08-2005 04:20 PM

Stop
 
No.

Glorfindel stays ! ! ! :mad:

If you try to vote him of this island i shall destroy you all!
(or at least try in my own pathetic way)


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