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++Eomer - The last attractive male on the show. How has he managed to stay so long? :p
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Eru, it's a new specimen entirely! The Fickle Dwarf!
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I owe no allegiance to Eomer. :p Do not accost me with yours stereotypes of Dwarflihood!
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++Eomer
Now is the time to jump on the Eomer bandwagon!! |
"Only a millionaire or a romantic would support Eomer."-Something George Orwell Might Have Said But Didn't That Supports Both Camps In Different Ways
Is no one going to strike out for the workers and join me in giving the gold-digging, leeching, penniless, hanging-on, obsolete, anachronistic disparaging aristocrat that is Gloin a healthy kick? |
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Rohan-a Constitutional Monarchy
Eomer is most certainly elected; if in a similar way to the Reges Teutonicorum or the Kings of Scotland, or Hungary, or Sweden (or, for that matter, the President of the United States); i. e., the electors will tend to continue to support one dynasty barring really serious disaster. It is repeatedly asserted that the Rohirrim "put their trust in the House of Eorl", and that is why Eowyn is required to rule over them in her uncle's absence.
In addition, as a proto-Anglo-Saxon society it is almost certain that Eomer required the confirmation of some kind of Witanegamot body of elders in order to rule legally. |
Votings close, I'll tally em up.
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Eomer- 4 Gloin- 1 Quickbeam must leave the island. Despite his name, he still doesn't leave fast enough and misses the boat off, so the remaining tribe are forced to use him as firewood, just like Treebeard. I guess it's getting pretty low in abundance. Dwarves/Elves Galadriel Glorfindel Gimli Gloin Hobbits Merry Pippin Men/rohan ladyEomer Eowyn Hama |
Well. I say we eliminate the Elf/Dwarf tribe a little, starting with Gloin(he's to old for this now) Or get rid of Hama who is ultimately useless. I mean, who gets eaten by a warg? Honestly!!! I'll wait a little, not to bandwagon or anything, but to make my mind up for whom I'll be voting for.
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Boromir, was removing Eomer an executive decision? I agree with it if it is otherwise I will continue to vote for him today.
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If you look closely morm, Eomer's name is right beside the Men/rohan lady part. As for my vote, it shall be
++Hama I just don't like him. That and he got eaten by a warg. |
Thank you Glirdan, in that case
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++Eomer.
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++hama band wagoning time for wayne.
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++EOMER THE URUK
No Uruk should be King of Rohan. Down with him! |
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But only because I said I would. I say tomorrow we get rid of one of the Dwarves... they've remained unvoted out this whole time. |
Mormegil, why? Why do you go so head strongly against Eomer? Why did you help Faramir leave the island? Did I or anyone else do anything wrong? How can you do this? Does your conscience not smart? You are coupling yourself with those who removed Sam! Worse than that, you got rid of Faramir - a man whom Sam greatly respected, and one who we wanted to stick around for a while.
It's all very, very sad. :( -- Folwren |
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And I want the big lout gone as well... Clearly, he's an enslaver of horses: that horsetail plume on his helmet, for example... What's more, he seems totally preoccupied with the idea of death. Look at his actions on the Pelennor. They are nothing but killing and looking to be killed. Is this the sort of man you want staying on the island? |
This from someone who defended an Orc high in the councils of Sauron...???
I second the removal of the Hama. Time he falls before the gate. Besides, I know he'd be willing to sacrifice himself for his lord... ++HAMA |
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He was, in any event, clearly not fit to lead his country, having abandoned it when it had great need of him. With his King lapsing into senile dementia, he takes off with his men on a hunting trip. On said trip, he ends up hunting orcs, undoubtedly a rare species in Rohan at that time. (Note also that he was a willing accomplice to that other undemocratically appointed monarch, Aragorn, in later hunting said species to virtual, if not complete, extinction.) He also continues to neglect his duties while out hunting by allowing three mysterious strangers (one of whom was the aforementioned Aragorn) to roam at will through Rohan, despite their failure to produce any proper ID. Later, at the Battle of Pelennor fields, he abandons his King to a potentially terrible fate at the hands of the Witch-King (no doubt, with a greedy eye to the throne). Happily, two of the remaining contestants were able to save King Theoden from such fate, although sadly not from death. Lo and behold, Eomer "mysteriously" appears after the danger has passed and coerces the dying King into handing the throne over to him. Note also Eomer's chauvenistic and overbearing nature. Despite knowing that his sister's greatest wish was to bear arms and fight for her country, he remained resolutely against her doing any such thing. He has continued to restrict her to domestic duties while on the Island. He is also a bully, as his behaviour towards the poor, unfairly maligned Wormtongue shows. He used his physical superiority to make the poor man's life a living hell. Remember how he continually taunted and ridiculed Grima while he was still on the Island? A classic example of a "popular" guy bullying the poor, misunderstood misfit. The comparison to a High School Jock, while it may be anachronistic, is far from inappropriate. I fail to see how anyone can support such a man. ++EOMER |
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Do not let this sinister heir of Wormtongue, this Orc-fondling lying word-twisting charlatan, usurp your minds, my friends, and vote for Hama, who has expressed a wish to depart rather than suffer the fall of his esteemed captain and friend. |
Indeed, let us all consider the sage counsel of Gandalf the White:
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A noble man ready to make a noble sacrifice. I bid him farewell and salute him. |
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Anyway, I'll probably vote for Hama today, afterall he really does nothing, and of all things he listens to Gandalf, that's gotta be the worst. |
++Eomer. Why is he still here? :confused:
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Much as I sympathise with the poor, misunderstood blighters, I most certainly do not indulge in cross-species petting. You shall shortly be hearing from my lawyers. Quote:
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Saucie castigates us Eomerites for following the Red Book. Makes me wonder about what sources he's going on...perhaps
The Black Book of Sauron, or, the troubles of a misunderstood jeweller The Brown Book of Ugluk, or, My Time in the Uruk Liberation Front The Multi-Coloured Book of Saruman, or, I am Your Rightful Lord and Master, Because I have the Coolest Robe, go on, admit it and most of all The Indeterminately Unpleasantly Coloured Book of Grima, or, how I had arrow surgery, sold up, and surfaced as a renowned Barrowdowner. This fellow is inveterate in his use of generalisation, balderdash, and misapplication. How could anything with more intelligence than Bert the Troll be swayed by such twisted rhetoric? |
History is inevitably written by the victors, and one has to bear in mind that is is therefore intrinsically biased. :p
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All sources are biased, Saucie. An objective point of view is impossible.
But if you make up a case from scratch and carefully selected, dubious evidence, from threads and patches, from politicised conjecture tailored to suit your cause, and parade and trumpet it as the truth... That's called distortion! |
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Anguirel has convinced me. |
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How interesting would this thread be if everyone just toed the line, unanimously voted off all the baddies and mutually enthused about how wonderful people like Sam, Aragorn, Faramir and Eomer were ...? :eek: ;) |
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Tsk! I am dismayed by the conservatism of the vast majority of the Downs membership ... :( |
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To an extent I agree with you, Saucie. I joined the Sam and Frodo campaigns, for instance. However, I'm just warning potential victims of your verbal wrigglings about your unreliability. Were I, not you, in charge of setting the agenda of targets that you seem to have grasped, then I'd be interested to see how you'd swallow my libellings of a character you liked...a certain innocent young Took, perhaps...
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In the meantime, I shall continue to have fun railing against the establishment. :D (Btw, if I really had any influence in setting the agenda, the list of those remaining would look markedly different. :rolleyes: ) |
Do you know with all the excitement over Eomer and Faramir and Treebeard, I completely forgot about
++HAMA I voted for him once already. Having seen some of these ridiculous arguments against Eomer I think I'll vote for anyone but! Who fancies starting on a Dwarf soon by the way? They seem to have escaped persecution so far. |
I did my best, Kath, I did my best. I may well support an anti-Dwarf drive, though I'd prefer to expell a Hobbit or so...
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Ah yes, mormegil. I was waiting for you to float up.
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Looks like, like most revolutionaries, this lot don't care about autocracy as long as it goes their way. Friends, Downers, Rohirrim, vote to promote the noble self-sacrifice of Hama in the face of these scheming hypocrites! Death, death, death! |
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