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wilwarin538 02-27-2009 10:10 PM

Ok, wow, so I come back on and see like 3 new pages, lots has happened.

So I've skimmed through everything and got the basic gist of what's happened. I'm leaning towards believing Rikae (since I am a simple white pawn, not the "real" WQ or a baddie), and I think I have a theory as to how it could all make sense. I'm not sure if this has been said yet or not.

So, since the good Ranger can protect from people at Night, perhaps the bad Ranger protects people from being lynched? That would explain Izzy's mysterious survival, and also prove that she is a baddie. So the evil Ranger protected her, she didn't get lynched, and enjoyed the mass confusion it caused. (It's possible cause Shasta never really clarified the way an evil Ranger would work) That would make Sally the cobbler, trying to get the WQ(who I'm thinking really is Rikae) lynched, and pave the way for the baddie victory.

Ahh, I need to think about this, I'll be back soon and probably change my vote.

X'posted with a few, will post again once I see what phantom has to say. (don't take too long please, I'm getting tired :o)

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-27-2009 10:17 PM

Wilwa, if your hypothesis about Black Ranger protection is right, then how do we explain that the BQ's kill choice didn't die the other Night?

Rikae 02-27-2009 10:20 PM

Perhaps the Night protection carries over into the Day as well? Shasta did mention the Black Knight being able to protect against werebear attacks. It doesn't really seem fair, but then, if we have an extra Hunter, that would unbalance things a bit the other direction, anyway.

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:20 PM

Okay. I skimmed, mind you. So I still don't have a great grip on things.

So, what I hear is that we should gun for the BQ today. Sounds like a fine idea. Especially with a WW in the bag.

But this business with Brin coming in and doubting everything. I dunno. But then that's what she does. I remember the way she reacted to my past reveals and I think this is pretty standard for her. But of course if she's the true WQ then... well... really, there's nothing I can do. She hasn't even claimed it, let alone proved it.

And I agree with Fea on about everything. I'd like to follow her vote. Personally, I feel like we will not make sense of this situation until the game is over, no matter how much we talk about it, because not everyone is being truthful and some of it may actually be motivated by good reasons to lie. So why try to make everything be perfect? Just go with the gut. Let fly. At least that's how I'm feeling right about now. Probably because I'm a bit sleepy and cranky.

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:22 PM

I'm amused that over half the thread comes from Nebraska.

Brinniel 02-27-2009 10:22 PM

*becomes a broken record*

Why does everyone trust the first person who reveals?

Once upon a time in a Lovers' game, Fea was the first to reveal that she was some secret role...in the end, she turned out to be a cobbler lover seer. So yeah, the baddies sometimes do reveal first. :rolleyes:

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 587226)
I'm amused that over half the thread comes from Nebraska.



I know. Don't you love it?

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:24 PM

And does anyone have a vote count? Pretty please?

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 587229)
And does anyone have a vote count? Pretty please?

Durie 2, Izzy and Brinn 1.

I'll check to make sure it's right. :D

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:26 PM

I meant showing retractions and everything. One that shows clearly where we stand. As I cannot hope to understand the roles and such, I'd like to at least have knowledge of the vote.

wilwarin538 02-27-2009 10:29 PM

Yes, it may be possible that the evil Ranger could protect in the Day as well, perhaps since their team is so much smaller they need more protection? I don't know, it's a difficult situation.

I just really want my vote to be useful, because this could very well be my last day, if I was a baddie I would kill me toNight, since if Rikae is telling the truth I'm a proven innocent, and no werecreature ever wants one of those lying around.

wilwarin538 02-27-2009 10:31 PM

I'm willing to vote for either Izzy or Durelin, since those two seem to be the ones who are most likely the safest bets. I'll wait just a tad longer and then probably choose one.

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 587231)
I meant showing retractions and everything. One that shows clearly where we stand. As I cannot hope to understand the roles and such, I'd like to at least have knowledge of the vote.


Working on it, gosh! I wanted to make sure it was accurate and I hit reply and was like "crap".


Anyway....


Fea-->Durie
Fea-->Durie
retraction of Fea-->Durie:rolleyes:
Durie-->Izzy
Durie-->Izzy
retraction of Durie-->Izzy:eek:
Mnemo-->Brinn
Sally-->Durie


Basically Durie's locked in for one and has another, Izzy's locked in for one and Brinn has one that can be retracted.


People who have votes to change/make
Sally
Mnemo
Phantom
Izzy
Rikae
Brinn
Willa

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:37 PM

Thanks Sally.

wilwarin538 02-27-2009 10:37 PM

I'm afraid I can't wait any longer, I'm literaly half asleep on my laptop (named Harry by the way, since everyone else was revealing their computers names earlier).

So I've decided to vote for Durelin, since I have been more suspicious of her then I have been of Izzy over the past few Days.....really hoping this is a good move.

-- Mnemo

++ Durelin


sidenote: it's Wilwa, not Willa, just to point out, ;).

Brinniel 02-27-2009 10:48 PM

I wonder what the chances are that an evil Rikae would sacrifice her mate in order to look good. It's possible, and people would believe her for awhile. Though I think people would eventually figure out she's lying.

If there's no chance of lynching Fea, then perhaps we should lynch Izzy instead. If she turns out to be anything but a Black Bishop, we'll all know she's lying. And if she is the Bishop, well, we'll at least be down one more baddie and you guys can decide whether Rikae's a fake or not toMorrow.

I'm still uncomfortable with all this. If our lynch is innocent, it'll make toMorrow that much more difficult. And while I'm sure I know two baddies, I can't say whether one of them is the cobbler. I'd still like to lynch Fea, but at this point it doesn't look like I'll get any support.

Rikae 02-27-2009 10:52 PM

Sally, you forgot that I voted for you.

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:54 PM

Just fyi, while all of you pieces have been having your stand-offs and discussions, I've quietly been inching down the side of the board.

And I just reached the back row, meaning that now you have another Queen on your hands.

Boo-yah! Didn't see that coming, did you? :D

Huh? What do you mean that I have to wear a skirt now? Not every Queen wears one! No! I refuse!

Okay, never mind. I don't want to be a Queen any more.

*retreats back to middle of the board*

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 587238)
Sally, you forgot that I voted for you.


Ha! I thought so, but then I couldn't find it so I figured it must have been another Day or something. Thanks for that; lets me know I'm not going completely crazy. ;)



Votes:
Rikae for Sally
Fea for Durie (locked)
Durie for Izzy (locked)
Mnemo for Brinn
Sally for Durie
Wil for Durie (locked)


Still to vote:
Brinn
Phantom
Izzy

Still able to change vote:
Rikae
Mnemo
Sally

Lynch is standing at
Durie (3)
Sally, Izzy, Brinn (1)



EDIT: x'd with Phantom. Wow, that's....special....

Mnemosyne 02-27-2009 10:55 PM

Aw, man! I wanted to see phantom in drag!

the phantom 02-27-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnem
Aw, man! I wanted to see phantom in drag!

Well, I'll be sure to bring my ball gown when I finally come to visit.

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 587242)
Well, I'll be sure to bring my ball gown when I finally come to visit.

:Merisu:

Rikae 02-27-2009 11:01 PM

Sally and Phantom - if you lock in votes for Dury, I'll do likewise, and we can all go do whatever else we all do on Friday nights (in my case, study).

That is, if anyone here actually does anything but play WW on Friday nights... bah, what am I thinking... ? :D

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae (Post 587244)
Sally and Phantom - if you lock in votes for Dury, I'll do likewise, and we can all go do whatever else we all do on Friday nights (in my case, study).

That is, if anyone here actually does anything but play WW on Friday nights... bah, what am I thinking... ? :D



Huh? Do something besides werewolf on Friday night? What new devilry is this?:eek:

Rikae 02-27-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 587245)
Huh? Do something besides werewolf on Friday night? What new devilry is this?:eek:

Whatever do you mean? One could always play D&D, or Magic, or read the Silm for the eleventy-first time, or even edit Wikipedia! Jeez, you people are, like, total geeks. :smokin:

the phantom 02-27-2009 11:06 PM

You all lock your votes first. I don't trust anyone at this point.

Rikae 02-27-2009 11:09 PM

Well, if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an impasse.

Isabellkya 02-27-2009 11:10 PM

Too bad we ruined our streak yesterDay. Otherwise I'm sure it could've been a werewolf first!

Durelin 02-27-2009 11:11 PM

I think you all at least owe it to me to tell me why you suspect me.

At least Fea did, even though her reasoning is poor.

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 587247)
You all lock your votes first. I don't trust anyone at this point.


Well you're the only one I trust completely, which should tell you something.



EDIT: x'd. Rikae I bloody love you. :)

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya (Post 587249)
Too bad we ruined our streak yesterDay. Otherwise I'm sure it could've been a werewolf first!

I think I missed something.

Mnemosyne 02-27-2009 11:13 PM

Sally-- the Izzy/phantom/Brinn streak.

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin (Post 587250)
I think you all at least owe it to me to tell me why you suspect me.

At least Fea did, even though her reasoning is poor.


A plethora of reasons, really. The thing is....you see....none of them come to mind right now.

Durelin 02-27-2009 11:13 PM

And explain why you all have been treating me as if I'M the known baddie?

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne (Post 587254)
Sally-- the Izzy/phantom/Brinn streak.

Ah. Thanks, love. *gives you a cracker*

I want to know where Brinn is/if she's coming back.

Brinniel 02-27-2009 11:15 PM

Of course Rikae wants you guys to lock in your votes for Dury. Because then it will still be unknown whether she's lying or not. :rolleyes:

Rikae 02-27-2009 11:17 PM

I can't trust anyone either. I know what some of you are, but I don't know that you know what I am. And I like less than half of you...
What? I wasn't going to add anything. :p

Dury, I pretty much suspect you based on process of elimination. Sorry, I know that really sucks - and I could be wrong about Sally and Mnemi, in which case I'd be wrong about you, but this is my best educated guess.

satansaloser2005 02-27-2009 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel (Post 587258)
Of course Rikae wants you guys to lock in your votes for Dury. Because then it will still be unknown whether she's lying or not. :rolleyes:

Then vote, silly.


Thanks for coming when I called, by the way. I see I've still got you trained well. There's Mommy's little princess. :D

Durelin 02-27-2009 11:17 PM

And you will be down another innocent.

Brinniel 02-27-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dury
And explain why you all have been treating me as if I'M the known baddie?

I'm not. I still can't say whether you're innocent or not, but right now you look more innocent than may of the others here. So anyway, I won't be voting for you.


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