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Anguirel 10-05-2005 12:31 PM

Eomer-10
Grishnakh-10
Merry-1

Too close for words...we need all the old men and boys who can bear arms to slay this Orc...

mormegil 10-05-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
To put it into contemporary terms, Eomer is like the cool, popular athletic guy at school. You know, the one who looks down on the pale, long-haired geeky types (like Wormtongue) and ridicules their love of heavy rock (or goth) music, fantasy literature and role-playing games. I don't know about you lot, but I hated those types when I was at school.

Geeks of the forum unite! Vote out the jock (US not UK terminology).

:D

Saucepan said it best. The call has been sent out. Remember your heritage folks. Eomer is the Quarterback that dated the cheerleader that would rather spit at you then so much as look at you. It's time we strike back.

I am sensing definite xenophobia afoot here. You should all be ashamed for wanting to rid the Island of the lone orc.

Anguirel 10-05-2005 12:43 PM

Says he who instigated the ethnic cleansing of Elvendom! Hypocrisy, hypocrisy...

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world. For heaven's sake, Eomer doesn't know what a quarterback is! Neither, indeed, do I!

The 1,000 Reader 10-05-2005 12:45 PM

We need one evil thing to stay for now, so++Eomer.

Anguirel 10-05-2005 02:17 PM

Oft the unlooked for guest proves the most welcome. If any of you who are not usually Survivor participants read this and feel some pity for the young King on the brink of destruction, lend your swords against Grishnakh.

If ever you have gasped at "he was young, and he was king, the lord of a fell folk"...

Then vote with your hearts and aid Rohan.

If you know what it feels to thunder upon a horse...

Vote with your legs for Rohan.

If words like "north, sword, helm, frost, vale" excite you...

Vote with your heads for Rohan.

Down with the crooked Orc dupe!

the guy who be short 10-05-2005 02:18 PM

++Grishnakh. So there.

Anguirel 10-05-2005 02:24 PM

tgwbs's stout aid brings it to-

Eomer-11
Grishnakh-11
Merry-1

Friends of the Rohirrim would still be eagerly accepted. We wish to save our King as well as trample our foe...

WaynetheGoblin 10-05-2005 02:25 PM

It is a tie 11 grishnak 11 eomor .vote for grishnak.

Anguirel 10-05-2005 02:38 PM

"Thrash on, you thrustful fellow, you threaten too much
It seems your spirit is struck with self-dread."


That I say to the Eomer evictors.

For Gawai...I mean, Eomer Eadig...

mormegil 10-05-2005 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Perky Ent
I refuse to bandwagon!

Read the title!

++Galadriel

She hoggs the water, and I feel like voting randomly!


Oath-breaker!


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Perky Ent
--Galadriel++Grishnakh

How can you say you don't bandwagon? :p

Switch your vote back or face my further tauntings :D ;)

Kath 10-05-2005 03:17 PM

No! Don't do it Perky! Don't let him bully you into it!

wilwarin538 10-05-2005 03:20 PM

--Eomer++Grishnakh

The Perky Ent 10-05-2005 03:22 PM

Well I'm tricksy, aren't I? And to all those who voted for Eomer:

I place a curse on you! You shall never rest until you fufil your oath to Grishnakh! Go now, and dwell under the mountain!

Boromir88 10-05-2005 03:47 PM

Say bye-bye to the sole trouble-maker on the island...Grishnakh. Now there's nothing left to left to go for except gushy muck, and "he's so great." No more conflict, no more drama, this show would cease to exist on National TV, but the show must go on...

Dwarves/Elves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Hobbits/Ent
Quickbeam
Merry
Pippin

Men/rohan lady
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama

Formendacil 10-05-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88
Say bye-bye to the sole trouble-maker on the island...Grishnakh. Now there's nothing left to left to go for except gushy muck, and "he's so great." No more conflict, no more drama, this show would cease to exist on National TV, but the show must go on...

In order that Survivor: LotR continue to survive, I hereby dub Eomer, Galadriel, and Quickbeam our new bona fide Servants of Evil.

All of you voting against evil creatures may now vote against Eomer the Uruk, Galadriel the Balrog, and Quickbeam the Troll.

Lalaith 10-05-2005 04:02 PM

Quote:

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world
*hits Anguirel on the back in a probably unwelcome fashion*

Damn right!

mormegil 10-05-2005 04:07 PM

I vote for

++EOMER THE URUK


Quote:

You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world
And the problem being....?

Glirdan 10-05-2005 04:11 PM

Fine, time to get rid of Quickbeam.

++Quickbeam

Let's get rid of him for Perky's sake.

Gil-Galad 10-05-2005 04:12 PM

aye for Perky

++Quickbeam the Troll

Firefoot 10-05-2005 04:16 PM

++Quickbeam the troll

Because... dare I say it? ... I rather like Eomer...

But if that's who it's necessary to vote off today, I'll switch. But Quickbeam and Eomer... the two really just can't compare.

wilwarin538 10-05-2005 04:31 PM

For Perky!!!!

++Quickbeam

Lalaith 10-05-2005 04:31 PM

++QUICKBEAM

(although I am an election whore today, I'll switch to anyone, within reason, while Eomer is in danger...)

Quote:

And the problem being....?
Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.


Don't let SpM win with his misleading "down with the kids" propaganda....Eomer is not Emilio Estevez, the jock a-hole, he is Judd Nelson, he is whatever the current righteous teen misunderstood idol is, lets not forget his senile fool of an uncle banished him, unfairly....

The Perky Ent 10-05-2005 04:43 PM

RALLY TO ME!!!! TO ME!!!!


++Quickbeam!

The 1,000 Reader 10-05-2005 04:46 PM

I have no idea what that was, so I'm voting for Eomer.

Rune Son of Bjarne 10-05-2005 04:48 PM

++Quickbeam

never liked him that much and i am a bit affraide what could happen if you vote against the perky order !

The Saucepan Man 10-05-2005 05:25 PM

Conformists! Grishnakh, the rebel without a horse, shall be avenged!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune
... i am a bit affraide what could happen if you vote against the perky order !

You get to show that you're a free thinking spirit, rather than bending to mob rule.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anguirel
You're aplying superficial, sterile, anachronistic, generalistic and transatlantic values to a Dark Age Old English world

OK. Eomer is the arrogant and scheming Knight with the wavy blonde hair who tries to steal the beautiful maiden away from the wronged green-skinned misfit. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith
Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.

Actually, it seems the pretty boy horse king has cornered the market in lawyers. Seemingly the second rate ones who couldn't even defend a noble and worthy character like Faramir. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith
Don't let SpM win with his misleading "down with the kids" propaganda...

Hey chick, the kids are alright. Get with the beat, dude. Er - groovy, man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Perky Ent
RALLY TO ME!!!! TO ME!!!!

What for? To help you vote off the last of your race? Really, what is the world coming to?

++EOMER

By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:

mormegil 10-05-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith
Mormegil, see me after school for a quick precis of how Saucepanman, having watched 80s flicks like Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club and Some Kind of Wonderful and so on, as a boy, is twisting this inside info on bizarre American high school tribalism with his cunning lawyer tricks to play on inferiority complexes across the Atlantic.


No, he's not playing on an inferiority complex because I have none. However there is a real climate in the High School over here like that. I did all I could to annoy those who found themselves superior to me.

DOWN WITH EOMER!

Folwren 10-05-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mormegil:
Oath-breaker!...

Switch your vote back or face my further tauntings. :D ;)
Oath breaker? Coming from you, Morm, that's rather weak, considering you break from the group at the most dire part in the entire game.

Quote:

Originally posted by SpM:
By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:
Ah, keep quiet.

I don't understand half of the insults being thrown back and forth concerning Eomer. It probably doesn't help that I never went to school, nor watched any of these alleged "flicks".

My opinion of Eomer is of a big brother under a lot of stress, but who holds up so well that it takes a threat to himself and his sister before he loses his temper. He uses his head, you know? And that's needed around here.

-- Folwren

The 1,000 Reader 10-05-2005 06:59 PM

See, you fools, without any true villains on the island you all have lost the necessary motivation to continue! Even our biased announcer has no real idea who to vote for! Perky has betrayed his fellow Ent! You have doomed yourselves. May the grace of the Valar save you.

Boromir88 10-05-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

By the way, Boro, apparently the announcer's not supposed to be biased. :rolleyes:
In case you already didn't know, Grishnakh was basically the guy I was pulling for to win the whole thing, so it's hard not to be biased in that situation. :p I guess I'll have to choose a new guy.

I'll go back with...

++Quickbeam

But mark my words...Eomer will die...:cough:...pay.

The Saucepan Man 10-05-2005 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boro
In case you already didn't know, Grishnakh was basically the guy I was pulling for to win the whole thing, so it's hard not to be biased in that situation.

Wow, that was quite a long shot. You must have got good odds.

Hmm, perhaps I should withdraw from the voting and run a book on the remaining contestants. Here's my thoughts:

Dwarves/Elves
Galadriel: 2-1 joint favourite
Glorfindel: 2-1 joint favourite
Gimli: 20-1
Gloin: 50 - 1

Hobbits/Ent
Quickbeam: 200 - 1
Merry: 16 - 1
Pippin: 24 - 1

Men/rohan lady
Eomer: 8 - 1
Eowyn: 3-1
Hama: 25 - 1

That seems the most likely to me with the kind of mentality we have round here at the moment. ;)

The Only Real Estel 10-05-2005 07:53 PM

++ Quickbeam

If you're going to brag about being the fastest thing in Middle Earth you should at least be able to back it up by beating Saruman to Orthanc. :rolleyes:

Alcarillo 10-05-2005 08:34 PM

++Quickbeam

I've seen molasses oozing uphill in January run quicker than him!

Formendacil 10-05-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefoot
++Quickbeam the troll

Because... dare I say it? ... I rather like Eomer...

But if that's who it's necessary to vote off today, I'll switch. But Quickbeam and Eomer... the two really just can't compare.

Well, I'll stick to my word, but you'd better keep yours and help us be rid of that nasty bugger...

++Quickbeam

He Who Would Be Hasty

Anguirel 10-06-2005 12:17 AM

I can see Quickbeam will wall anyway, so I'm going to vote for a character I actually dislike unless Eomer is seriously threatened...

++GLOIN

I really can't believe this geriatric snob is still here.

To all you fools who say the departure of Grishnakh ends conflict...nonsense. Conflict between supposedly "good" characters is more morally ambiguous and fun.

Examples:

Will Gimli overcome the urge to take an axe to Quickbeam?

Will Eomer or Gimli win Galadriel's heart? Who will prevail in their duels?

Will Glorfindel do an Aegnor and carry off Eowyn? How will Eomer and Hama react?

Will Quickbeam continue to ravage the island with palm tree huorns to revenge Treebeard?

Will Merry and Pippin form a sworn hobbit assassin's guild and slay Gloin for impugning their kinsman Bilbo's honour with slander about groceries?

And so on. Now say you'd think this was boring on TV.

The Perky Ent 10-06-2005 12:40 AM

At the very last people, are we going to do some kind of thing where all the people who were voted off come back? If we are, I think we should save Eomer, just so we can crush his hopes so close to the finish line when all the islanders vote agaisnt him!

Koneko 10-06-2005 02:27 AM

++Quickbeam ... bandwagoning... yay!

Lalaith 10-06-2005 03:30 AM

Quote:

No, he's not playing on an inferiority complex because I have none. However there is a real climate in the High School over here like that. I did all I could to annoy those who found themselves superior to me.
Fair 'nuff, Morm.
But my point is that Eomer is being miscast and traduced by SpM. Think on it.
Quote:

You get to show that you're a free thinking spirit
says SpM.
So why not back Eomer, then?
Quote:

He had rebelled against my commands, and threatened death to Grima in my hall.
Eomer is absolutely not the have-it-all corn-fed musclehead jock.
He's a firebrand, a rebel with a righteous cause, the ultimate misunderstood angry young man.

Boromir88 10-06-2005 05:36 AM

There's been no problem with this, I'm quite pleased with how this has turned out, and I'm enjoying doing it. But, with us winding down here to the final days, I have a concern that things may get more heated, we all have a pretty good idea on who we want to win...do we not? So, as a Reminder, let's keep our posts on reasons and arguments why someone should stay or leave, don't make anything personal. I wanted to address this before any problems that may rise, especially since we're getting down to the nitty-gritty.

Quote:

At the very last people, are we going to do some kind of thing where all the people who were voted off come back?~Perky
Ahh, I was going to get to that too.

Here's how I planned the last day to go...and I'm laying it now so there's time to make changes if anyone thinks we need them, and to sort of give you an idea how the last day will go so it's not total chaos.

I think the last day with three people left should sort of be the grand finale, the cream-of-the-crop, the best quality from the thread. So, I'm altering rules around a bit, which all go towards making the last day of voting the best.

1) You vote for the person you WANT to win.

2) Votes will be irretractable. By this time you should know who you want to win. If you decide to take back your vote, NEITHER of your votes will count.

3) I will not vote unless we have a tie. This I think benefits in a few ways. First, take my word for it (I'm asking you to trust Boromir of all people :rolleyes: ) that if there is a tie, and I have to decide it will be unbiased.

In the event of a tie, is the only time that I CAN vote. The way I'll judge is creativity and it's got to be atleast related to LOTR in some way of the arguments you give for your person and against the others (I'll give some examples). So, my decision will be based on how convincing you make your arguments for why the person you voted for should win, and why the other two should lose.

This also, I think makes sure I just don't get a bunch of votes in here, and that we get the true thread quality at the end. This way, JUST in case if there is a tie, the decision will be up to me, on how well you have argued for your person.

For kind of what I'm looking for in the arguments at the end, here's the way to do it, and the way not to do it. As I said, I'll be looking for creativity and whether it's related to LOTR in any way.

For example, I'll use Gil, I fail to see how stealing his pies is LOTR related. Though it may be creative, unless he can convince me what stealing his pies has anything to do with LOTR, I'll have to say that this would not be a good argument.

For a good example...funny I'll use Gil again. When voting for Elrond he said..."Yeah, I'm dead because of him, that jerk." I found this extremely funny, and it does relate to LOTR...Gil-galad...dead because of Elrond.

Also, I found Formendacil's Eomer the Uruk, Galadriel the Balrog, Quickbeam the troll, quite hilarious as they're basically polar opposites. Though Formendacil, I'll say I think Glorfindel would be a better balrog candidate then Galadriel.

Anyway, that's in case if there will be a tie. Everyone agree...disagree...thoughts, Input?

Thinlómien 10-06-2005 07:31 AM

Sounds reasonable to me.


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