I was about to say the same thing


edit: x-ed avec Mith

I know where it comes from, but I had to do some searching to learn it.

I think tables are helpful. Period. But I agree they also fall into the category of things people do just to look helpful, but it doesn't reduce their usefulness. And I didn't mean to defend him by that, I just wanted to say he's done something helpful (I did not say if he was doing it just to look helpful or because of a genuine willingness to help). I will look through Eönwë's posts for the few useful points if you want me to, but not if there's something more important to be discussed. You're again trying to thwart me to play silly games. :rolleyes::p

I never wanted anyone to think me innocent. I only wanted them to think you guilty. It's nice not to be suspected as an innocent, but quite frankly, I don't care if I'm lynched toMorrow if we lynch you toDay. I believe we can afford wasting a lynch on me once we've got rid of one mutineer. (But of course I prefer to live.) But if you were me you'd be just as certain of your guilt as I'm now. It's really not like I decided to get obsessed about lynching you, I just became more and more confident you're evil and wholeheartedly launched a campaign against you because I have nothing to lose. I'm not like you, I don't have to think about my own survival all the time, because my side can afford losing people far more than yours.


edit: xed with the three

I do read I just find it impossible to draw conclusions when I have no certainty about anything much. I guess my cluelessness is one of hte reasons I havent been killed since I havent been suspected much - also I did say I might not be here today ...

Mac has fooled me before but I don't know if a Macwolf would fail to send in a kill. Hmm

Well you have two different ways you can take it:
1) it looks unlikely, henceforth he is probably innocent
2) it looks unlikely but it would be foolish to exonerate him based on that.

Indeed...which leaves me nowhere but tired and mind boggled.... ..

Sounds familiar. But if you ask me, you should vote him. ;) Not like there's even any contesting suspicion... unless you want to start one? I think we should get done with him toDay for good and focus on other stuff toMorrow. It would be refreshing.

Mith, please consider carefully - another vote for me would pretty much seal my fate, and we're very probably at most 2 wrong lynches away from defeat. If you're not sure - there are other options, and you can still lynch me tomorrow if you want to. What is your opinion of Eonwe, for example?

Why do Mith and Lommy remind me of Théoden and Wormtongue? :p ;)

Mac I don't want another Day fighting you. This is getting pretty tiresome. (I don't mean to offend but it's not actually nice to bombard the same person with accusations for several Days in a row especially if you don't generally enjoy hammering others or the person in question is someone you like and you'd far rather be on the same side with. :)) Why not you toDay and Eönwë toMorrow? What are you trying to achieve by postponing your death by a Day?


edit: xed with Mac :D why do you remind me of Saruman after the Ents' attack? Although, wait, that would make me your servant, no way... ;)

Lol I really don't know but you have tricled me before .... I am in such a state I am starting to wonder if Issy has a point.... but that way lies insanity.

Gandalf where art thou?

Mith :D:D

I'm afraid there's no Gandalf in this game. :rolleyes:

I note that Gwath has not been modfired but given his continued absence I doubt that can last.

I would really like to know something for certain. I suppose it would be wrong ot crave a doublekill?

Can we please just lynch Mac toDay? We can then kill him again toMorrow and that should reveal aplenty.

And please consider this really not just as something coming from me. I think it would make sense.

But I'd still prefer lynching Shasta before double-lynching Mac.

Where are Boro and Noggie?

You sound like Boromir under the influence of the ring trying to tempt Frodo (I'm thinking movie version here).

edit: x-ed

btw, so, my internet just sorta fizzled out a few minutes ago.

Feel free to lynch yourself. :p

Riiiiight. :rolleyes: :p

Just that you won't like what it will reveal.

What did I say? 2 more wrong lynches it is.

:D

edit: xed with Mac

Oh and I am as indecisive as Book Aragorn...

I could consider it if there was more support. ;)

Is that the best answer you can come up with? :p

You know I will probably literally bang my head against the wall if you turn out innocent. But I don't think I'll have to do that.

Exactly why I told Mith I want to lynch you toDay, not anyone ghosted.

(But not that I'd be so certain it's just 2 more wrong lynches, that would assume three remaining live mutineers, right? Remember at worst it's just one lynch wrong and we lose.)


edit: xed with Mith

So got to go..and I can't sort out the living. I really think tomorrow Gwath should be lynched if not modfired by then
.... if that makes any sense. But I thinkI would like ot know for sure about Kath..

I should probably go now... but who to vote?

What would we learn by that? She posted hardly anything and hardly anyone stood up to defend her, she was just bandwagoned for. If we're to lynch a ghost, then good heavens let's at least pick someone who created some controversy and posted enough to draw conclusions from.

But like I said I don't think we can afford losing time like that.


edit: xed with Eönwë

Or lynch Gwath now? seems consensus that he is guilty...? What was a cop out with Mira might now be genuine damage limitation? The next kill will be very revealing but of course possibly too late...

Does noone else want to know something for certain?

I just always want to know about Kath... it makes everything else so much simpler.

Well Eönwë you know what I'd recommend... :D but seriously, is there any better case around, any better option? As a bonus, you will get a much more calm Lommy toMorrow - provided that she's alive - if you lynch him toDay. ;)

edit. double-xed

Just a hunch that maybe we have to be the ones to kill him...

++Gwathagor

Eee NO Gwath for heaven's sake. There's nothing really to point at his guilt and he may die at any moment anyway and the wolves take one of us down every Night...

edit: xed with Mith

Okay now I know who's a cobbler for sure. :rolleyes:

Oh, I don't like that at all. Are you sure we can afford that now, Mith? Wasting a vote on a probable modfire?

x'd with the Penguin

Another thing that just popped into my mind the Lommy-Mac argument could be a co-conspirator and an innocent (could work either way round).

edit: x-ed since Mith. Why? He might be modfired.

Nerwen, refer back to a previous post where I covered role claiming.
Simplified version - I haven't claimed a single role.

Zil - I don't have to be either a Mutie or a Cobblie. The End.
In all honesty, I haven't gone out of my way to do anything lately. ;)

My vote on Mac signifies he is a Mutie. All there is to it. If I were a Cobblie or a Mutie, you really think I would've voted with my own choice for Mac on Day Two, and not gone along with a bandwagon already in place?

Interesting vote there Nerwen. You think I'm a Cobblir a Mutie, and question my vote for Mac... yet you vote him also? Uhm.. yes makes perfect sense.

I'm tempted to unvote, and vote Nerwen again for being such an obvious Mutie now.


X'd with Zil and Eonwe.

My heavens you pick this day of all days for me to start chattering?...it couldn't have been any of the days when I had nothing to do except refresh my page every 20 minutes. :rolleyes:

I'm doing other things right now but have checked this a few times today. And I'm completely lost with you guys as I should either concentrate on this right here and now - but also read those two Days I missed with thought before saying anything constructive to any wider issues - or those you have sank into.

But I must say that I do share Mith's thoughts on Mac not missing a kill. Okay, there are circumstances where it could happen even to me (but I'd send sms's, go somewhere to get a net access to really confirm it's sent etc.). One summer I used my crappy mobile phone to do that when on our summer cabin...

If the wolves did miss one kill by accident* you should look at some other names than Mac...

But as I said, I'm completely uneducated with the twists and turns of this game so please ignore me. I'll be back if I have time and interest enough to exchange sleeping to this totally insane game. :rolleyes:

EDIT: * "by accident" meaning screwing it...

Ok, I still have no idea.

Those still alive:
-Pirate Lommy the Infected ~ Quartermaster
-Pirate Boromir the Malformed ~ Gunner
-Shark Tooth Shasta ~ First mate
-Snifflin’ Mac Sparrow ~ Cooper
-Almost-Blind Nerwen ~ Navigator/Sea Artist
-Cowerin' Gwath Slasher ~ Powder Monkey
-Ham-Hands Izzy ~ Striker
-Short Ruth Mithril ~ Cook


I won't vote Gwath, as he's probably going to be modfired.
Boro strikes me as innocent for now.
Lommy seems a little too forthright to be a mutineer (though could be a co-conspirator).
As far as we know, Nerwen isn't a mutineer (however she could be a co-conspirator).
Izzy just acts surreal, and seems like an obvious co-conspirator, however that could just be cover. But I'll leave her for now.

Which leaves me with these 3:

-Shark Tooth Shasta ~ First mate
-Snifflin’ Mac Sparrow ~ Cooper
-Short Ruth Mithril ~ Cook

which I'd be willing to vote for toDay

Of the 3 left in my list (what if they're all mutineers! :eek:), the only one who I've heard a good case against is:

++Macalaure

So I be votin' fer tha' scurvy-dog t'Day

And now I leave...

*hugs Eönwë* :D

As for missing the kill, I don't think it should be used as an argument. So many things can possibly have happened and we have no way of knowing the truth. And I would definitely not want to be a mutineer-Macalaure who is suspected a lot but then saved because no one believes he'd miss a kill he actually missed. It wouldn't feel fair, it wouldn't feel nice. So I think we should really try to ignore the fact that one kill was missed.

And while it seems highly unlikely, it is possible it was missed on purpose.