Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 573781)

What I found was- eh'onweh.

Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 573675)

I think Nerwen doesn't look very suspicious apart from her reaction to morm, which could be that of an innocent as well. So I'm pretty much at a loss now, because at the same time I know she's capable of all sorts of nasty things and I just wouldn't want to stop suspecting her like this, just to be on the safe side.

Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 573675)

I don't like it how I conclude that every person I've been suspecting is probably innocent.

And I want to go to sleep soonishly and I have no proper idea who to vote.

Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 573742)

Guilty
Nerwen. Okay, her speculation about Cab's death and reaction to Ilya & Brinn's reactions is suspicious, plus her fierce defense of herself.

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 573786)

But you could just call him Steve if you want. Easier to rhyme that way.

Originally Posted by Boromir88 (Post 573790)

Drat, I should have learned my lesson from Mith, to never cross paths with a woman when moddessfire is on the line.

Originally Posted by Boro

P.S. Oh great, I probably just signed Agan's death warrant now. Sorry my lady.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 573797)

Shouldn't be immensely difficult to rhyme with "ay-on-way". ;)

Originally Posted by Fea

I rather think the more valuable lesson for you to learn is to never cross paths with a woman in general and expect to win.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 573713)

Gwath and Eonwe are both under the radar with me. And where's Sally? If any of those three were lynched, I probably wouldn't shed too many tears. (Sorry guys!)

Originally Posted by Boro

tp...what is it that you said about questioning your means but never your motives? You should really read your own book.

Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 573623)

Think it this way: you're a wolf and want to bluff by doing something you would never do as a wolf. When someone suspects you of it, is it better for you to say "I would never do so as a wolf" or wait till someone else says "He would never do so as a wolf"? The former is more suspicious.
Now, you're a newbie wolf. You might be suspected if you said "I did it just because I'm new, no-no I didn't have any dark intents," but if you suggested subtly that it might have happened because you're new and don't quite know how to react to different situations, it would be easier for people to believe it since it would feel more like they had come up with it themselves. What struck me as suspicious in Ilya was how she looked like she was consciously and carefully trying to use the less suspicion-raising manner.

Do you get my point?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 573620)

Aganzir: Her way of tracking wolves and posting annoys me. Also I have trouble telling apart what is just “normal” Aganzir and what is suspicious, so I would also like her to go simply to make my life easier. Also I don’t get why it is much more suspicious to say you’re a newbie in subtle way, than doing it straight forward. (ok Boromir just explained it, I don’t know what to make of it)

Originally Posted by Aganzir (Post 573640)

My earlier, rather incomplete case can be found here. I'm not going to discuss things already treated with there unless I have something new to add.

Ilya's been flip-flopping a bit. In 407 she said she will vote for the one she's the most suspicious of, but a little before she had noted she didn't want to vote anyone who already had a vote (including Legate). In 407 she explained her reasons for not wanting to vote those three people, though. The only person she mentioned apart from them was me (and my backing off of Lommy which parroted what a lot of other people had said etc etc), which, given the context, seems to suggest she was considering voting for me.

She admitted her Legate vote was bandwagoning, and said it looks fishy because it's safe, but she also suggested her newbieness might have to do with it. The latter was a remark I didn't particularly like but that's been discussed already. However, I just realised that one reason I didn't like it was that she doesn't play like one might expect a newbie to play but comes up with things herself and suspects people, at least to some extent.
Also, she kind of put the blame of her joining the bandwagon on Boro; "..to do exactly what Boro did to me yesterday: cast a vote with authority, and convince me to jump on the bandwagon."

She didn't know what to make of the Agan/Lommy brawl and feels there's something wrong in there. Also, she was suspicious of me for a reason she didn't know (later told she had found my reasons for voting Brinn for rep weird, especially that "she won't be the centre of attention" part, but they didn't feel as suspicious anymore now that she knew where her suspicions came from).

Ilya planned to vote Rune for rep, but when Lommy received three votes, she said she could vote Boro instead so there would be two people with three votes.

As for her suspicions today, she said that if Eönwë doesn't start posting with more substance she might get suspicious, she had a gut thing against me, Nog made her raise her eyebrows with his contradictory stuff, and she was not exactly suspicious but watchful towards Brinn. She voted the reasonable & reasonably funny Rune for rep.

Ilya is pretty quick to admit it if she has made mistakes (ie suspicious things). That's generally a good thing I guess, but Rune also had a valid point when he said


I can agree with Lommy that Ilya has looked much more innocent today. However I have no idea if that is because her fellows have had a chance to give her advice in the night or if she's just got more used to the game. Her defense and the reasons she gave for the things she did look pretty genuine though, and she kept her cool pretty well even when accused.

I'm not very concerned about her right now. Still going to keep an eye on her, but I don't think I'm going to vote her.

edit: xed with Eönwë and Gwath

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 573813)

You still coming to Omaha tomorrow, Sally?

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 573810)

Re: Ilya. And again, I'm quoting Agan. Dang it, this is the beginning of a very bad habit. *frustrated face*

Anyway, she has changed in subtle ways from yesterDay. I'm not sure it's pack coaching though. I know last game (and I don't mean this in a bad way) I was afraid to give Gollum playing suggestions for fear that it would make him stick out more, so I just left him to play the way he had been (again, not to say there was anything wrong with that, but....anyway, I digress). It could have just been her getting used to playing here. But either way, yes, she's done some things differently and though she has some good points I still feel uneasy about her.

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 573816)

I don't know what to make of her either. As you and Agan point out, the change in her posting could be read both ways.

As for what's happening– Eönwë has been lynched. We are waiting for Fea to let us know what he was. (There seems to be a consensus that pleading with her is useless.)

Originally Posted by tp

I should've filibustered today so I could be sure to reach that historic number during this village.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

As for what's happening– Eönwë has been lynched.

Originally Posted by the phantom (Post 573818)

We now await the narrative.

*drum roll*

And Eonwe is....

.... a WerePenguin???