Very nice concept for a thread: interesting and a fun way for us to express either or angst or joy in the films.

I think most of us would agree that although we may complain at times about PJ's changes in bringing the books to the screen it has been wonderful to see them brought to life in a fairly respectful manner. Many people spent years of their lives trying to make what they felt were the best films possible.

What we should try to remember is that we all have differing opinions and ideas both of how to interpret the books and how we feel about the movies. We should all be able to express our opinions in a respectful manner without getting annoyed at each other.

As my husband reminds me when I start ranting about something I missed from the movie, "I bet PJ did it on purpose just so you Tolkien fans would have something to talk about."

I have lived with the books for over thirty years and they have added immeasurably to my life. I look forward to the same experience with these films.

Can't wait for the next debate. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Faenaduial

If it is allowed, I think it would be

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beneficial for us all to not only present our dislikes, but what we liked about the films as well, and vice versa. Although that might be considered "switching sides."

Luthien it is fine to speak for against, or both. Do not be allarmed or daunted by the faux court-speak! Just read over it all a couple times and do your best. I doubt anyone [excepting Mithadan] would be much of a pro at it. Glad you are finding it amusing. I have enjoyed almost all of it myself [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

I may hate PJ for changing the story in the books, but I must admit that when my sister starts to totally bemean the movies, I can defend most of the deviations. Yes, most - even Legolas' penchant for odd quotes, and Faramir being evil (you might PM me if you want to know how) In fact all of the changes are reasonable to me.

Except one. Frodo's weakness is a thing I never can explain. In fact, I was so bothered by it that I thought "Maybe the movie is right. Frodo just happened to be the Ring-bearer, supported by chance and good friends." Then I read the book, wehre I discovered I was so wrong. So was the movie.

->Elenrod

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 11:01 PM December 22, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

"This is a great way for people to get out their feelings about these films."

Thanks Gorwingel, you have managed to truly discern the whole point of the Trial.

*shudder*

I will allow that the Brothers Hildebrant are talented artists, but I will not deny that I detest their work. Or to be more accurate: their art is too cartoonish and did not, in the least bit, coincide with my imaginings of anything. They are talented, but I don't like how they portray the Lord of the Rings.

Cheers,

Fea

Hannon le. It's my favorite Christmas carol, but I'm going to change it since Christmas is now officialy over. I'm glad that my brother and I aren't the only ones who think that. They gave Elrond a handlebar mustache for goodness sake! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

So, when do we resume? I'm itching to cross-examine someone...actually, I plan to cross-examine everyone. ;) :p :rolleyes:

Your honour, I would move to recommence these proceedings. I have many points to raise on behalf of the defendant and wish to bring them before your court. If Your Honour is not to recommence proceedings then may the defence at least be given an idea of when proceedings shall recommence, so that it may further prepare its case?

A motion has been made to recommence the proceedings. Although this unknowledgable Tolkienist has very little to say on such a seemingly weighty matter as this, I second said motion and call upon the right honourable judge Lindil to reopen the court. A recess of nearly a month has passed, and knowing the wights who reside in this barrow, they have seen the newest piece of evidence (the motion picture Return of the King) at least three times in the first two days. I personally have comments that hinge on the final movie, and wait for proceedings to recommence.

Well I would put on record that while Mr Jackson should not come near the forest on a dark night, I will defend Hugo Weaving as Elrond while there is breath in my body..... :D

::exchanges high-fives with Mithalwen::

As will I! If this thread is revived I intend to defend the virtues of Hugo Weaving but in the meantime berate PJ for ditching the Scouring of the Shire. Hugo is the coolest elf ever to wear purple.

Oh a kindred spirit! I thought didching the scouring lost a main point of the book ....

Hugo ..in armour also *gulp*

Melonwen of Imladris hesitantly steps up to the podium. "Your Honor, if we are to resume, I have would like to bring forth further evidence of deviation from the story, the further crimes of PJ et al in regards to the Tree of Gondor." The elleth patiently awaits the judge's invitation to speak.

I love this thread! And to tell you the truth, everyone who has commented is correct...thank goodness for the films, and oh my, what did PJ do to our beloved story?...all at the same time!

<Bergil runs into the courtroom wearing two backpacks>
Bergil: I wish to present evidence
< Bergil starts slowly settting up a collapsible easel he took from from one backpack (not waiting for response). he then rummages around in the other backpack , pulls out a poster, and attaches it to the easel>
Bergil: (taking out a stick for pointing) now-
Lindil: what relevence can a poster for Pirates of the Carribean have
<bergil blushes, takes the poster down, gets what he was looking for out of a backpack, and attaches it to the easel>
Bergil (pointing with the stick): this chart shows-
<crowd yells, Bergil yells back and flourashes stick, hits the easel, and collapses it. he slowly sets it back up, well the crowd laughs>
Bergil: this chart shows the reaction of the human bladder to the theatrical version of Fellowship of the Ring (though it seems a chart based on monkeys would be more appropriate for you lot), and it clearly shows that cuts had to be made to the film. in fact, he's already pushing it by making them as long as he did. That preticuler charge is absurd.
<Bergil starts slowly taking down the easel>
Lindil (very fast): Leave the evidence here so we can look over it.
< Bergil sits down>

[Bang! Bang! Bang!!!]
Sgt at Arms: All rise the folkmoot will now resume.

[Judge Lindil re-enters the court, his eyesight slightly dimmed w/ the passing of seasons, he peers out into cyberspace to see of there is still the wish for the trial of PJ to continue...]

Judge Lindil:The court apologizes for the great delay, and hopes that everyone who could stand to watch the extended version of Rotk have done so. Perhaps even re-read the trilogy a time or 2. I hope all who wish to speak in support of defense or the prosecution of the accused may now do so. Please post freely and intelligently.

[Judge Lindil waits patiently, curious to see the response [or lack thereof]...]

Opinionated citizen Fea steps forward.

Your honor, I wish to change, slightly, my former words on... Him.

While he managed to mangle every image I had ever created during my pre-movie readings, managed to turn the part of an Elf (by default cool), Legolas, into a lot of obvious-stating foolery, and while he managed to make wargs... well... I simply won't go into the wargs...

I believe that the Extended Edition scene in The Return of the King that depicts Eomer's discovery of his sister on the battlefield and the Houses of Healing shortly thereafter are poignant and excellent enough to counter-balance all of the truly lame choices he made in other cases. The choice of music, locale, cast, and lines were nothing short of brilliant in that scene.

Fea sits back down... at least until somebody says something she disagrees with.

That's the funniest thing I've read on the internet this year so far. Very clever!

Disgruntled Hobbit shouts out of the Jury
 

"Whenever a book is released into a movie form, they're never perfect. Sure, I don't know how the Pths of the Dead exit just down the Anduin from Minas Tirith, or why Faramir was having a bad day, but for the most part, PJ did a good job! It could have been a lot worse people."

Judge Lindir: "Master Hobbit, you were not recognized, and as being a member of the jury...."

"And furthermore, if you people wanted it perfect, go make your own movie! Someone was going to make a movie of The Lord of the Rings, and it wound up being PJ! I think we should...."

Judge Lindir: MASTER HOBBIT! By speaking out of turn (and speaking at all unobjectionally) you have defied the law of court. You will be replaced. Good day to you sir!"

<two Olag-hai baliffs enter and escort the hobbit out of the room. Sam Alito is sent to replace his position on the jury>

Judge Lindir: "Now then, since the nonsense is over, let's resume an orderly trial....."
________
ROLLS-ROYCE SILVER GHOST

I ask you a question, did you want to see The Scouring?
I ask you another question, did you see Legend Of Zorro?
Do you still want to see the Scouring?

Judge Lindil:

"Mr. Jackson do you have any words of defense re: the complete abscence of the Scouring of the Shire?"

PJ: "well your honour as I had already killed Saruman..."

[the gallery erupts w/ many loud shouts and boo's]
ORDER! ORDER!!

The gavel is pounded once and an eerie silence falls...

Judge Lindil: So you seem to be admitting that one omission, led to another...

PJ: well as I have stated before my aim as to focus on the story of the ring and it's destruction, so after that, I mean does it really matter?? Fran and I wrote a few other alternate endings, we had Denethor pull out an fire extinguisher as soon as Gandalf and co. closes the door on the hallows, and Denethor sneaks up to the shire [ see cause the new Denethor likes too eat... {At this many boos and hisses erupt} in Saruman's place...meeting wormtounge too...I thought it was great!! a real improvement in fact...

[W/ this the courtroom erupts and Judge Lindil tears at his beard and rips his robes...]

Chaos erupts, Judge lindil regains his composure and discretely orders the Baliffs to escort the defendant out of the court before he is injured...]

After the furor dies down Judge lindil calls a recess...

Reporters gather outside and there seems to be a consensus that PJ has lost alot of weight, possibly due to the rigors of the trial. Some are calling it the 'Noakes Diet'...and noticing the similarity w/ the current trial of Saddam....

A recess?
 

:(

When will the court be back in session?