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Grond 10-10-2000 01:56 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Since it´s my first question, i´ll make an easy one: what item warns the dwarfs of Erebor from any enemy attack?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Orcrist. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Sorry for replying so late. Your answer is, of course, correct. Ask us!

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

That is quite alright, Grond! Of course, I don't have my book today, so here is another one off the top o' me head. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Which ring did Gandalf have?



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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Gandalf was given Narya by Cirdan upon the wizard's arrival at the Grey Havens.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

<img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek"> YEESH <img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek">

That was fast! Anyway, you are, of course, correct Mithaden! Ask away!

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Just happened to pop in at the right time. OK, other than the One Ring, which of the Rings of Power had no gemstones?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Umm...a trick question? None. All the Rings of Power except for the One Ring, were set with gems. Or at least that is what I thought. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Correct! I noticed that yesterday while reading The Council of Elrond. Ask away.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Sweet! I guess it's just you and me on this thread, Mithaden! Okay. This one might actually bring more people in.

Name all of the &quot;Hills&quot; in Tolkien's works. When I say Hills, I mean a name starting with Amon. Name all the Amons, as it were. I count 11.

First one to get all 11, or the most, posts the next one. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Edit: Oops...is a hill an item? Oh well. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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Grond 10-12-2000 10:45 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Well, this is a really hard question. I can only remember 6:
Amon Sul, Hen, Law, Amarth (Lord of the Rings) and Amon Rudh and Ethir (Silmarillion).

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Well, that's 6 of them. Five to go! Some of these, I don't even think really big events happened at, but we will give this a little more time and see who else knows any of them. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

I can give you three more off the top of my head.
Amon Anwar (Hill of Awe, where the tomb of Elendil was placed)
Amon Ereb (Hill in the Silmarillion where Denethor (the elf) died)
Amon Obel (Hill in Brethil where the Haladin lived)

Good question, by the way!


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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Thanks, V.

Ok, I was not thinking of Anwar, so that is 12 now. The other two are correct, so we still have 3 to go that I can think of. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

On a side note: Amon Lhaw, spelled with the H. Just FYI. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Amon Sul, Amon Hen and I can't think of the Hill of Sight.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see Grond's response above.

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Grond 10-12-2000 02:37 PM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

I want to add another Amon to the list:
Lanc (which was later called Dol Gundur)
P.S: Jes, thanks for the correction <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Edit: I´ve just remembered Amon Gwareth (Gondolin was built upon it)

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Okay, I wasn't thinking of that one, either. I think that's because I know it as Dol Guldur (that's what you meant, right?) and I have never heard it referred to as Amon Lanc. But, nevertheless, there are still 3 more to go that I am thinking of. We can stop soon, but let's see if anyone else wants to play. This is educational. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Side note: Amon Hen is the Hill of Sight. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Edit: Good job, Grond, Gwareth is one of those I was thinking of. We are down to 2 to go! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">


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Grond 10-13-2000 02:41 AM

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Please, Jes, have mercy. Consider giving us any clue, I don´t wanna make use of the books, but I can´t remember any other Amon.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Have we said Amon Din yet? It was one of the beacon hills of Gondor.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

That is another one! Just 1 to go! Hmm...a clue, eh? This one is a little more...obscure I think. It was in RotK, and it means 'mount ever-snow-white'. Okay, if that doesn't do it, nothing will...give me the Amon name for it and we'll be done.

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Amon Uilos, Sindarin for Oiolossé!

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

That is correct, Sharku! Also Sindarin for Taniquetil!

Well, that was fun and educational, don't you think? Your turn, Sharku! Ask us! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Which language, wrote JRRT once, fitted &quot;The Hobbit&quot; as well as no other he knew?

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Just guess if you do not know it, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Blind lead the blind
Those who chain the future
Are those time leaves behind
Is glory now gone?
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Well, I´ll try: since the hobbits are simple and pacific cretures and quite stupid, maybe, some North European language of a little country like Denmark??

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

The region is close.
But the connection &quot;quite stupid - North European language&quot; certainly would have earned you a grim glance by JRRT.

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Those who chain the future
Are those time leaves behind
Is glory now gone?
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Is a rose without thorns. </h6></p>

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Yes, I think so, he was a devote of that languages. But I didn´t want to express that, I mean, I used stupid as ignorant, I hope Danese people don´t hate me for calling them ignorants!! <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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In that case it must be Norwegian, from the country of Trolls.

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getting even closer... but Norwegian had changed a lot since older days compared to the 'ideal' language JRRT thought of. Maybe Norwegian did not have the air of myth which the tongue in question possesses... the names of the dwarves and of Gandalf are taken from a source in this respective language, this might be a reaso why JRRT was so delighted in his late days to here &quot;The Hobbit&quot; got translated.

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Are those time leaves behind
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I have always believed that Tolkien took the names of the dwarves from some German book with dealed with a Ring or something like that. So, is German the answer?

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Welch.

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Neither.

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This is my last try: Swedish

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Finnish. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Sharkû 10-19-2000 06:15 AM

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Again: neither.
So far we had Norwegian, Swedish, German, Finnish, and Danish. Not much left <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> ...

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Re: Items In Middle Earth

Icelandic, perhaps?


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Yes, that is it.
Some weeks befpre he died, JRRT wrote to Ungfrú Adhalsteindottir that he had long hoped for an Icelandic translation, &quot;a language which I think would fit it better than any other I have any adequate knowledge of&quot;.
Ask, Voronwe!


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I'll try another Language question, though I'm sure it will be easier than the last!

On what two real languages did Tolkien base Quenya and Sindarin?


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Icelandic and Welsh?

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Tolkien did indeed base Sindarin on Welsh. However, Quenya wasn't based on Icelandic.


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