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Estelyn Telcontar 08-07-2003 02:28 AM

Which persons did Tolkien think were the reason for the cooling off of his friendship with C. S. Lewis?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-07-2003 12:56 PM

Fellow Inkling Charles Williams and Lewis' wife, Joy Davidman. To what extent he was justified in that opinion is a matter for speculation.

Estelyn Telcontar 08-07-2003 01:26 PM

That's right, Squatter - your turn!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-07-2003 01:37 PM

Of what did Tolkien say "...it does seem such a mad hobby!"?

[ August 08, 2003: Message edited by: The Squatter of Amon Rûdh ]

THE Ka 08-07-2003 08:59 PM

Ok, i have a trivia question about tolkien...

Tolkien was the leading scholar on the subject of what two precious 14th century poems?

Hint: they were written anonymously, and about 70 miles away from oxford. they both shared the dialect of that region... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Estelyn Telcontar 08-07-2003 09:37 PM

Welcome to the Downs, THE Ka! You need to answer the question correctly before asking a new one - for help, read the rules thread at the top of the quiz forum page. Enjoy yourself here!

Kaiserin 08-14-2003 03:46 AM

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Of what did Tolkien say "...it does seem such a mad hobby!"?
He was talking about creating languages, particularly his "nonsense fairy language" (in his own words).

[ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: Kaiserin ]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-14-2003 04:07 AM

As he wrote in a letter to his future wife. Absolutely correct.

Kaiserin 08-14-2003 06:59 PM

Okay, new question:

Tolkien, being a philologist and a devout Catholic, was in the team that worked on a certain Bible translation. What Bible translation is this?

[ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: Kaiserin ]

Estelyn Telcontar 08-15-2003 04:37 AM

The Jerusalem Bible is the translation in which Tolkien had a part. As he wrote in his letter to the Plimmers in 1967:
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I was consulted on one or two points of style, and criticized some contributions of others. I was originally assigned a large amount of text to translate, but after doing some necessary preliminary work I was obliged to resign owing to the pressure of other work, and only completed 'Jonah', one of the shortest books.

Kaiserin 08-16-2003 07:33 PM

The Jerusalem Bible is absolutely right! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Estelyn Telcontar 08-17-2003 06:51 AM

Whose collection of Fairy Books did Tolkien compare to "stalls in a rummage-sale"?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-17-2003 08:25 AM

Andrew Lang's
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Andrew Lang's Fairy Books are not, perhaps, lumber-rooms. They are more like stalls in a rummage-sale. Someone with a duster and a fair eye for things that retain some value has been round the attics and box-rooms.
From On Fairy-Stories (Andrew Lang lecture to the University of St. Andrews - 8 March 1939)

Estelyn Telcontar 08-17-2003 09:17 AM

Quite right, Squatter - you have the floor for the next question.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-17-2003 09:31 AM

To which publication did Tolkien write satirically suggesting that the name of Oxford be changed to Doncaster in February 1945?

Estelyn Telcontar 08-20-2003 10:21 AM

He wrote to the "Catholic Herald"! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] One of its correspondents got the etymology of Coventry wrong, which annoyed him so much that he made a sarcastic reply. However, he assumed that
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...he's probably too stupid to see even that mild quip.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-20-2003 12:14 PM

It was indeed the Catholic Herald. 'Coventry' derived from 'convent' indeed! Preposterous!

Estelyn Telcontar 08-20-2003 12:58 PM

Here's a new question: When and where was Tolkien's last photograph taken?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-20-2003 02:41 PM

It was taken on the 9th August 1973 in the Botanic Gardens in Oxford. Tolkien is pictured beside his favourite tree, a Pinus Nigra (see H. Carpenter: JRR Tolkien - A Biography).

Estelyn Telcontar 08-20-2003 03:25 PM

Absolutely right, Sir Squatter - I had just read LotR some months earlier... Pray proceed!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-20-2003 03:39 PM

Tolkien changed degrees after his first year at Oxford. What was his original course of study and to which subject did he convert later?

[ August 20, 2003: Message edited by: The Squatter of Amon Rûdh ]

Beren87 08-22-2003 01:37 PM

More of a guess than anything, but I remember something about Classics to English Lang.?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 08-25-2003 12:57 PM

Well, he actually joined the Honour School of English, which included both language and literature; but only an incurable pedant wouldn't let you have that one. Your turn.

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: The Squatter of Amon Rûdh ]

HerenIstarion 08-25-2003 01:38 PM

Well, habitually I do not post to express mere approval, so I expect this one to stand during oncoming centuries as a monument and great sample of "what H-I was not usually involved into". But, since I can not stand the temptation this one time and would be glad to say:

<font color="red">Great Idea, this, Annunfuiniel [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

*H-I expects to plunge in soon

Beren87 08-25-2003 01:54 PM

Well then, this is your chance to dive right in, then, HI. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Which of Sinclair Lewis' books played an influence on the word "Hobbit"?

That's an oddly structured sentence, but I believe you get the point.

Turambar 08-25-2003 02:30 PM

Babbit, presumably.

Kaiserin 09-03-2003 06:04 AM

It's been ten days... I hope nobody minds if I post a new question.

"Taruithorn" is Tolkien's elvish word for what?

[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Kaiserin ]

Rimbaud 09-03-2003 07:49 AM

Oxford.

Kaiserin 09-05-2003 01:52 AM

You are right, of course [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Rimbaud 09-05-2003 03:17 AM

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And while he is there it is dangerous for him to ask too many questions, lest the gate should be shut and the keys be lost.
Of what speaks the Professor, and where would one find this snippet?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-05-2003 05:41 AM

In Tolkien's lecture On Fairy-Stories. He is talking about the realm of Faerie.

Rimbaud 09-05-2003 08:08 AM

Spot on, chap.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-06-2003 05:35 AM

What did Tolkien describe as "rationally nonsense, not to mention theologically blasphemous"?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-14-2003 04:35 PM

I'm bumping this thread up with a clue: this has to do with one of Tolkien's friends.

The X Phial 09-14-2003 04:46 PM

The clue was helpful. Tolkien was referring to the concept of "Miserific Vision" as conceived by C.S. Lewis.

From letter 291
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And of course the 'Miserific Vision' is rationally nonsense, not to say theologically blasphemous.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 09-14-2003 04:51 PM

That's the answer I was looking for. Like Beowulf, you have the floor. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

The X Phial 09-14-2003 04:57 PM

Cheers, dearest legal-tenant-by-possession.

Tolkien adjudicated a bet over the proper pronounciation of a poet's name. Which poet and what is the pronounciation Tolkien agreed with?

Bêthberry 09-14-2003 09:39 PM

Are you referring, XPhial, to Letter # 61, dated 18 April 1944, where Tolkien complains that he wasted time answering a letter from the Eighth Army, being asked to settle a wager on "how to pronounce the name of the poet Cowper. His full reply is as follows:

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Deeming it below the dignity of a 'Regius prof' to adjudicate on Big Money, I sent as Delphic an oracular reply as I could, giving the adjt. a good deal more fact, I expect, than he wanted. Not of course that there is any doubt that the poet called himself Cooper (of which his name is merely the older spelling): oup, owp spells oop in English: there are no aups (in Latin value) so stoup, group, soup and formerly also droup, stoup (verb), troup, coup(er), whouping-cough, loup etc. (not to mention roum, toumb).
P. 72 in my 1995 paperback HarperCollins edition.

*curtsies*

[ September 14, 2003: Message edited by: Bêthberry ]

The X Phial 09-14-2003 10:26 PM

I am, in fact, referring to that very letter and poet. We await your question Miss Berrydol.

Bêthberry 09-15-2003 07:20 AM

Interesting what flotsam and jetsam one files away, X. I had remembered that bit about Cowper, wondering if the soldiers of the Eighth Army had in fact been thinking of his The Castaway even while they wagered over the more insignificant question of pronounciation.

But as to my question, of what was Tolkien speaking when he said, Many people dislike being arrested? And where did he make his remark?


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