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Starbreeze 03-12-2002 03:11 PM

I was really creeped out be the Marshes *shudders* I can't wait to see how they do it in the film though.

Gorin Icearms 03-12-2002 03:28 PM

My brother (what a nice guy [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) recently purchased "A Guide to Middle Earth" by David Day for me, and it has an (to my knowledge) accurate description of the Watcher in the Water. After reading this, I made the mistake of trying to picture it. Ewwwwwwwww.

Kraken
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According to the most ancient tales, Melkor, that most evil of powers, in his kingdom of Utumno in Middle Earth bred many terrible creatures for which there are no names in the Time of Darkness before Varda rekindled the stars. In the following ages these creatures were a bane on land and in dark waters to those who lived peacefully in the World.

Some of these beings of Melkor's survived below the thunders of the deep far beneath the abysmal seas in ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep even into the Third Age of the Sun. The "Red Book of Westmarch" tells that when a firey Balrog was loosed in the Dwarf-kingdom of Moria, another being came out from the dark waters that lay beneath the great mountains. This was a great Kraken, many tentacled and with a slimy sheen. It was luminous and green and an inky stench came from it's foul bulk. Like a legion of serpents it lay in the black water beneath the mountain. Eventually it came to the clear water of the River Sirannon, which flowed from the West Gate of Moria. There it built a great wall in the river bed and made for itself a black pool, hideous and still. The Kraken was guardian of the West Gate and none could pass without challenge. For this reason, in the "Book of Marzarbul" it was named "Watcher in the Water". During the quest, this evil being was awakened by the Fellowship of the Ring, who managed to escape into Moria.

Whew. Specifically Boromir awakened it. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

VanimaEdhel 03-12-2002 06:25 PM

Hey! No worries, mellonamin (my friend), for I am only 14 as well! And do not worry: I have a friend who had to leave in the movie when the Nazgul came on...and did not come back for 20 minutes...my friend and I yelled at him SO much...Oh well...enjoy the site! As you can see, I am a "Recently Deceased" as well!

ElanorGamgee 03-12-2002 06:39 PM

Things that scared me:

-Orcs catapulting heads (that took me completely off guard!)

-The Dead Marshes

-The Barrow-Downs

-Denethor's death

-The mutilation of Thrór in Appendix A

-The attack on the Fellowship in Moria

-Pippin and the Palantír

Also, Saruman talking about Lotho's murder really got to me, especially the bit when he says to the affect of "I hope Wormtongue buried him, but he's been hungry lately." I know this was most likely just sick humor, but ick! And I can't imagine anyone actually killing a poor, defensless hobbit in its sleep. Wormtongue gives me the creeps.

[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: ElanorGamgee ]

Amarinth 03-14-2002 10:08 AM

shelob scared me too---never did like marilyn manson...

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Starbreeze 03-14-2002 03:25 PM

Lol! Marilyn Manson! SOOOOOOOO funny! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Enedhil 03-15-2002 05:35 PM

first of all - what's the connection between shelob *shudder* and marilyn manson *shudder*? sorry for being slightly dim [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And now, after reading through all the replies, safe to say i'm feeling just a bit squeamish [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
And apart from severed heads, giant spiders and orcs, i was terrified all the way through Mordor. Wanted to crawl under a big stone and hide. Or a small stone. Cos i really felt that tall -->*holds two fingers about three inches apart*

I read a little clip somewhere, Elijah saying that he used to look over his shoulder sometimes, in case there was orcs following him *eek* [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Have an image (I get a lot of that :P) of us folks creeping through Mordor behind Sam and Frodo, clinging to each other, looking around fearfully and armed with bows, swords, knives etc... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Jessica Jade 03-15-2002 08:19 PM

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first of all - what's the connection between shelob *shudder* and marilyn manson *shudder*? sorry for being slightly dim
seriously, what IS the connection? I don't get it either... [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

Maikadilwen 03-16-2002 06:21 PM

I'm not easily frightened. I LOVE the Nazgűl (well, most evil things actually...) [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Though there is ONE thing in the movie that creeps me out every time I see it: Frodo's eyes. Oh, I can't stand them. (Sorry to all Frodo lovers).

Starbreeze 03-17-2002 01:36 PM

Maikadilwen, I agree with you about Frodo's eyes! Creepy! The worst thing is, my friend can do a really great impression of them so when ever I turn around to look at her she does Frodo eyes at me! Argh! lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Jessica Jade 03-17-2002 01:51 PM

erm, why do you think Frodo's eyes are scary? I think his eyes are big and blue and beautiful, if you want ot know the truth! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Besdies, he's not an evil character, so why would his eyes ever be scary? i just don't understand....i think elijah wood has the most amazing eyes [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Jessica Jade ]

ElanorGamgee 03-17-2002 02:00 PM

The only time I think Elijah's eyes are creepy is when he's been stabbed by the Nazgűl and he's struggling against becoming a wraith. Other than that, I think his eyes are beautiful [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Maikadilwen 03-17-2002 03:10 PM

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my friend can do a really great impression of them so when ever I turn around to look at her she does Frodo eyes at me!
Oh no. I feel SO sorry for you.
They're just..... just.... argh, they're just too big and too blue and too..... happy???? And scary. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

Noxomanus 03-24-2003 10:06 AM

I think the Dead Marshes was what frightened me most,the balrog didn't really scare me but I was merely shocked it took Gandalf with it.Mordor was quite frightening though,but Shelob really didn't freak me out

Schmendrick 03-24-2003 12:58 PM

I just can't believe that not everyone found the Nazgul most frightening! For me, nothing compares them. When I was reading about them (at night...), I was so scared, I almost couldn't look out of my window. I was sure I would see a black shape in the shadows!
And same thing when I came from the movies - I kept watching over my shoulder and thought I heard their (or their horse's?) voices...
I guess it's the fact that they are nor living nor dead that makes them so scary. To be dragged to their "nothingness" would definitely be worse than death!
I think Shelob and the Orcs were only gross, not really scary... (even if I am really arachnofobic!)
And the ring of course. Not really scary, but so evil...(By the way, when I made a test "Which of the bad guys are you?" I was...THE RING! Wonder what that means... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])

GaladrieloftheOlden 03-24-2003 01:03 PM

In the books, there were very many places which I thought were scary, but....in a weird and twisted way. It was pleasant that they were scary. I don't know why. The one I thought was just gruesome was Shelob. And possibly one of the things with the spiders in the Hobbit when Bilbo is piercing it and JRRT just describes how....*shudders* ugh... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

merenwen 03-24-2003 05:43 PM

oooo i agree with the head catapulting thing, that was just kinda...what's the word..gruesome? i dont know it just freaked me out!

Cibbwin 03-30-2003 02:00 AM

I personally LOVE spiders, so I'd be more amazed by Shelob more than anything. And yes, I'm nuts! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

The one thing in the movie that scared the CRAP out of me was the dead marshes, especially when that particular elf opened his eyes... /shudder

That, and Denethor's suicide... Gods, that is so disturbing I can't describe it...

Estelyn Telcontar 04-01-2003 09:27 AM

Whoa, an opinion thread that survived in the depths of the Books forum - now that is scary! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Time to move this to the Novices and Newcomers forum...

Peri 04-02-2003 03:43 PM

In the movies, I thought the Balrog and the cavetroll were really frightening. In the books, it was the ringwraiths that gave me the creeps. Maybe it's just me, but things seem to be even more menacing when you read them. Maybe it's the fact that I have problems putting faces on characters, so all the characters are very mysterious, especially the evil ones. When you see them defined for you on the screen, it kinda takes away from the intensity of fear I have when I read about them.

Tinuviel the Nightingale 04-03-2003 05:10 AM

I agree with most things:
eg. severed heads, thrors death, denethor, Frodo's ringwraith eyes (*shudders*)

but I found Boromir's whole, turning against Frodo thing kinda creepy, because in my opinion he started out to be one of the strongest and noblest characters. Just proves that you just can't trust some people...

The Evenstar 04-06-2003 11:48 AM

Yea, those Watchers give me the creeps, even though the the Orcs are hideous!


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