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On the subject of Bean portraying Aragorn- I can't see it working. I think Viggo fit the part better. Sean Bean did an amazing job with Boromir, I just can't see him as Aragorn. I like Viggo's portrayal, but if we are to start saying names on who would make a great Aragorn, I would suggest Liam Neeson. He has an Aragorn like face (from the books as I picture) and I think his acting would have been great for the character. |
Check out Liam Neeson's biography and pictures here- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000553/
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The thing most everyone is missing is Aragorn's nickname: Strider. He was very tall and lanky as the name implies (his ancestor, Elendil, was said to be 6'11'' and tallest of all the Dunedain). This is not a physical quality Viggo posesses (I believe he's 5'11"). In fact, it seemed other characters were taller than he. Also, he did not portray the grimness Tolkien instilled in Aragorn (and the rest of the Dunedain, like Halbarad, for instance). Viggo came off wishy-washy and irresolute, which were not characteristics of Aragorn either (this I blame on the script mostly).
I would agree that Liam Neeson fits Tolkien's description much better, but unfortunately, Hollywood cuteness prevailed. |
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"Aragorn, direct descendant of Elendil and his son Isildur, both of whom had been seven feet tall, must nonetheless have been a very tall man…, probably at least 6 ft. 6; and Boromir, of high Númenorean lineage, not much shorter (say 6 ft. 4)." (p. 229 of The Lord of the Rings: A Reader's Companion) |
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You guys would like the new entry I found while poking around on Encyclopedia of Arda t'other day to see what was new. This is about "Man-High":
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That is a wonderful and strangely imprecise measurement! As the long years drew down, did the lár become shorter, I wonder.
And I also wonder if a hobbit gait would be measured in halfrangas... or perhaps cubits are a corruption of hobbis, the length of a hobbit's stride. ;) |
Of course, I saw the movies before I read the books. But even if I had read the books, I pictured someone like Viggo playing him. Not necessarily and English noble warrior type, but more like a loner fateful type with something to prove. And I think Viggo fit that ticket quite nicely, if I do say so myself.
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I never really have a very clear pictures of book characters in my head, so they are easily replaced by movie characters. I suppose I thought of Aragorn as being, well, darker I guess is the right word, more mysterious-looking, rather aloof. I do however think that Viggo Mortensen is a great Aragorn, he is not quite what I thought I thought he would be but still, he is really good.
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I pictured Aragorn just as Viggo looks, but with a slightly thicker beard.
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I like to think of Aragorn more mysterious than Viggo!
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Mmm...yes...mysterious....
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Well yes, but in my mind he always retained an aura of mystic about him.
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One of the downsides of being young and watching the movies first because you couldn't read something of the awesome power as LotR, you start picturing Viggo as Aragorn... it really sucks! But I love the mysterious Aragorn, in fact sometimes Aragorn for me isn't even Viggo at all, but someone I cannot describe!
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I never pictured Aragorn with long hair. Shaggy, yes. Long, no. I also envisioned him as being significantly less greasy. And taller and leaner.
I had the good fortune to read the books first. |
From head to toe, the look of Aragorn in the films was extremely consistent with how a person would look having spent long periods of time in the wilds. Such social conventions as having ones hair properly cut and trimmed, or frequently washed and styled, or having their clothes looks as if they just were ordered from the Minas Tirith branch of Nordstroms are not in keeping with the realistic look of the films. Once upon a time, many decades ago, Hollywood would have given Aragorn a perfectly crisply pressed and cleaned outfit, had his hair looking as if he just did a commercial for Breck shampoo, and made sure he was a good four inches taller than all those he came in contact with to make sure the audience got the idea that he was a king. Thankfully, Cecil B. DeMille and his like are no longer around to give us that sanitized, very unreal version of a hero.
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Hmm... You're right, Sauron, but to me Aragorn still looked too clean and properly cut. The whole film shows that long hair was in fashion, so Aragorn was no dirty exeption. Movie Aragorn wasn't wild enough.
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I like the fun side of Aragorn, the side where he laughs at jokes and in the Prancing Pony, there were times that he laughed and I liked that, he was a grim man yes, but he had to be, I of course like it when people are smiling a lot! So he needed more laugh lines!
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I think the casting of Viggo as Aragorn was spot on. He's just as I had imagined him: grim, resolute, serious and with the weight of the world on his shoulders, as he knows he has to accomplish more than anyone has done before to get what he desires, and that he's very unlikely to succeed. The extended interplay between Arwen and Aragorn was also great to better understand his character and what drove him on, although they meddled with the background story a bit too much. Viggo's rugged good looks and sword fighting skills are also fitting I'd say.
Whether he's tall enough is a small concern to me. |
Actually, a good hunter would clean himself regularly (e.g. bathe in stream) to reduce his scent, thereby making it more difficult for him to be detected by his quarry. The Native Americans, for example, were very conscientious about being clean before they went hunting; the sweat-lodge was part of this process. Aragorn, as we all know, was one of the greatest hunters of that time period in Middle-earth. It is therefore not unreasonable to assume that he would have managed his grime-levels better than he did in the films. He certainly did not have the same gritty, modernist sensibility that Jackson and Co. do, and would have had no qualms about tidying up whenever possible. (In fact, he probably thought: "Gee, I'm an important protagonist here. I should be more presentable before I go into town/meet other important protagonists.") Certainly he wouldn't have been impeccably clean; but you see my point.
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Viggo is not my idea of Aragorn but I accepted him as Aragorn in the films - his first appearance at Bree was one of the few things that tallied with my mental image. However Daniel Day Lewis is much closer to my mental image especially in this picture - though perhpas a little young
http://www.perfectduluthday.com/Dani...20-%20Bild.jpg |
Ah! Daniel Day-Lewis, of course! He'd be PERFECT, as anyone who has seen The Last of the Mohicans would have to agree.
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How often do you think this process would have been used by a hunter? Does this not go against what we know of bathing practices by people during the Middle Ages and agrarian times? How do you know that Aragorn did not bathe? Even when he was doused in the river after going off the cliff in TTT he certainly did not have benefit of soap and shampoo, hair conditioner, and a good blow dryer. addition: just had my daughter and her husband over for dinner and he is a big hunter who was raised in a family of hunters going back several generations. He also teaches science. He said that bathing is not going to get you any results because your normal scents begin to emerge almost as soon as you dry off. He said a good hunter uses wind and learns how to stay downwind of an animal. Or, old school hunters used to use anjmal urine to cover their scent with fox or skunk being the preferred scent. |
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I agree. The wind is very important, too. Did you really bring this up at the dinner table? :eek: |
pre-dinner conversation. And asking him a question about hunting is like asking Bill why Hillary should be president.
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Nope. 'Fraid not. Neither so hansome nor so rugged as I pictured Aragorn. Sorry.
EDIT: Just looked at the picture Mith linked to. That's a great pictures and very Aragorn-ish to my mind. :) Thanks for the link. |
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when i first read the books i imagined him as a bit rougher looking than he was portrayed in the films, a bit older, more worn out looking.
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[QUOTE=Alonna;546399]Daniel Day-Lewis was offered the role of Aragorn several times, but he turned it down. Unfortunately, Day-Lewis tends to be very picky about what roles he takes. He's only done four films in the last ten years. He would have been excellent in the role of Aragorn if he had taken it.[/QUOTE
And it would probably also have given him a good reutation (though I suppose he likes to be THE main character) |
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Day-Lewis does have more of the right facial structure, but he's still not quite as I pictured him.
Actually, though, I think Macalaure should have played Aragorn. :p His eyes have more wisdom than Viggo's, and his goatee is scruffier! |
Viggo did ok as 'Strider' but there should have been a scene where he challenged Sauron through the Palantir, and afterward appeared older, more strained, but more kingly. To me there wasn't enough difference between the Ranger and the King, but then I never could understand the movie's reason that the 'heir to the kingship of Gondor' ran away to the north, since there was no mention of the two sundered lines of Elendil.
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