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Thinlómien 08-08-2006 03:55 PM

++Witch-King

(See previous "day" for reasons....)

And yay! I started a bandwagon! :D *gloats*

wilwarin538 08-08-2006 04:02 PM

Votes so far ( because I'm bored):

Durin - 2
Witch-King - 3
Celebrian - 1

Anything could happen. ;)

Boromir88 08-08-2006 04:09 PM

I guess no one can see the conniving little worm that Celebrimbor is. Now Grima is not in this competition, but at least as a pathetic worm he finally got some back bone and killed Saruman...what about Celebrimbor? This guy is useless. The only reason I didn't stay with him yesterday was because Ori, quite frankly is such a lag on the ratings, Celebrimbor is about just as bad.

Let's look at Celebrimbor's so called 'accomplishments.' So, he makes these 3 elven rings, supposedly he was tricked and deceived by Sauron to make them...what a hunk of baloney. If being Feanor's son isn't enough for you, when have you ever known the stubborn sons of Feanor give up anything they made that was of value? Which means the 3 elven rings Celebrimbor made were junk, or he would never have given them up. Also, it's quite clear he was in league with Sauron...tricked...ya right. Sauron goes to Celebrimbor says, make me some rings, I'll taked the fall for wanting complete and total domination over the Elven Race, and you can be stuck with the glory and honor of making this blingy jewelry. But, in reality the rings were junk, or Celebrimbor wouldn't have given them up, nor would Sauron have been able to easily dominate and make them absolutely useless when he had the Ring, and after the Ring was destroyed. So, put it simply the styling rings were no more than a cracker jack toy out of a box.

Then he moves on to design this door for Moria, and what kind of password is that? I mean if a brainless hobbit can figure out the password, then obviously he's a fraud. No wonder why Moria became infestered with Orcs and a Balrog, because this 'grand secret door' was more baloney by Celebrimbor.

So, while Celebrimbor goes around reeking the glory and fame of creating these super awesome items and achievements...look at what he actually accomplishes...nothing. The Rings were junk, his door was crap, and he goes on with everyone believing he's some great craftsman.

++Celebrimbor

mormegil 08-08-2006 04:58 PM

Psst...Boro

He's Feanor's grandson. But I'm all for eliminating any posterity of the scum they call Feanor.

The Elf-warrior 08-08-2006 05:31 PM

++Sauron

I think we can agree he is the worst of the worst among the contestants. He corrupted a whole nation. Things got so bad that Eru himself intervened and destroyed Numenor. It was he who ordered the werewolf murders of all of Beren's companions. He made the Uruks. The whole land of Mordor is a testimony of his great evil. On this second day we should cut off evil by its head instead of voting off a mere puppet, a venerable Dwarf Patriarch, a great craftsmen, and a victim of the Orcs. Who knows what kind of unspeakable torture she endured?

Nogrod 08-08-2006 07:22 PM

I would like to re-instate my case for Tom Bombadil.

The witch-King isn't so great as he could be, but still he's one of the master baddies. Without an enemy there would be no heroes either.

But what does Tom do in the story? (or Goldberry for that matter? - it's only my inner feminist that calls for killing Tom before Goldberry)

Singing melodramatic schlager-tunes and being so out of all that is happening. He does not add to anything that is in the story or involve himself in anything. He's just a "big-old-guy" who somehow can resist the ring but still is without a decent role in the story. Saving the Hobbits from the Barrow-Downs can not be counted here as a major involvement.

Tom is just downright repulsive "nice-guy" with no real function in the story.

Down with him!

++ Tom Bombadil

Diamond18 08-08-2006 10:07 PM

Quote:

And 'cause I'm sitting back and watching Diamond be provocative. :p
Well I don't think this is quite the right crowd to find an Alf vote provocative. ;)

Hmmm... eenie meenie miney mo... who shall I vote for today?

+ + Ar-Pharazon

Pig. Creep. Jerk. Power mad Sauron toadie.

mormegil 08-08-2006 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior
It was he who ordered the werewolf murders of all of Beren's companions.

Yes but without Sauron we wouldn't have our beloved game of WW now would we?

Rune Son of Bjarne 08-09-2006 03:35 AM

++Sauron

If you have to be a bad guy you have to be it proper and not go an put you power into a ring. Of all things, why a ring? Why not something big and manly, like a Shredder
Die you minion of Morgoth!

Bêthberry 08-09-2006 05:57 AM

I continue my campaign against those who attempted to rule earth rather than let the rightful children duke it out themselves.

++ Manwe

Come on, with a name like that, he's the most magnificent? More like Morewennie, but skip the mustard 'cause this ain't no hot dog.

Mirkgirl 08-09-2006 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bêthberry
I continue my campaign against those who attempted to rule earth rather than let the rightful children duke it out themselves.

My plan was to stick to WK, but after this...
And I wouldn't give him my cat's litterbox let alone a Silmaril if he treated me like he treated Feanor.

++ Manwe

mormegil 08-09-2006 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirkgirl
And I wouldn't give him my cat's litterbox let alone a Silmaril if he treated me like he treated Feanor.


That's one of Manwe's greatest attributes! He, unlike all others, didn't grovel before the pompous Feanor.

wilwarin538 08-09-2006 08:45 AM

Votes so far:

Durin - 2
Witch-King - 3
Celebrian - 1
Celebrimbor -1
Sauron - 2
Tom Bombadil - 1
Ar-Pharazon - 1
Manwe - 2 (thanks Bethberry)

Also I will be ending the day an hour early, instead of late. So Day 2 ends at 1pm EST.

Bêthberry 08-09-2006 09:04 AM

Er, um, Manwe has two votes, from Mirkgirl and Bethberry, at this point in the day. :D

Mirkgirl 08-09-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil
That's one of Manwe's greatest attributes! He, unlike all others, didn't grovel before the pompous Feanor.

You dont have to grovel, but if you want something that belongs to someone else and is regarded as very valuable by him you might as well ask nicely. A concept fully alien to oh-so-mighty manwe. No groveling due to illusions of self-importance is worst that grovelling itself.

wilwarin538 08-09-2006 10:59 AM

Day 2 had been just as eventful as Day 1, but the votes were much closer.

Durin - 2
Witch-King - 3
Celebrian - 1
Celebrimbor -1
Sauron - 2
Tom Bombadil - 1
Ar-Pharazon - 1
Manwe - 2

At the end of the day it was the Witch-King that got booted out of the game.

Literally.

As the Witch-King walked away from the other contestants, he looked down the cliff that Ori had fallen off of the day before, and made sure to not trip and meet the same fate. But as he turned to walk away, the Muddy Boot of Doom came out from behind a shrubbery and kicked the Witch-King, who then fell off the conveniently placed cliff.

Thus ends Day 2!

Remaining contestants:

From the Lord of the Rings Survivor
Merry
Gimli
Hama
Gandalf
Arwen

From the Silmarillion Survivor
Maglor
Sauron
Elbereth
Osse
Manwe
Ingwe

From the Hobbit Survivor
Smaug
The Bullroarer
Gloin
Durin
Bofur

From the Second Age Survivor
Tar-Miriel
Celebrimbor
Celebrian
Thorondor
Tar-Aldarion
Ar-Pharazon

From the Minor Works Survivor
Chrysophylax Dives
Goldberry
Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Perry-the-Winkle
Princess Pam
Tom Bombadil

**********************************

Day 3 has begun! You may now start voting!

NOTE: This day will end at the normal time tomorrow.

Tuor in Gondolin 08-09-2006 11:22 AM

Boromir makes a strong case for evicting
Celebrimbor, though I think it's more as being
the slow boy in elf class (after all, it did take him six
years and three changes of majors to graduate from
VTU (Valar Technological Institute).:

Quote:

Let's look at Celebrimbor's so called 'accomplishments.' So, he makes these 3 elven rings, supposedly he was tricked and deceived by Sauron to make them...what a hunk of baloney. If being Feanor's son isn't enough for you, when have you ever known the stubborn sons of Feanor give up anything they made that was of value? Which means the 3 elven rings Celebrimbor made were junk, or he would never have given them up. Also, it's quite clear he was in league with Sauron...tricked...ya right. Sauron goes to Celebrimbor says, make me some rings, I'll taked the fall for wanting complete and total domination over the Elven Race, and you can be stuck with the glory and honor of making this blingy jewelry. But, in reality the rings were junk, or Celebrimbor wouldn't have given them up, nor would Sauron have been able to easily dominate and make them absolutely useless when he had the Ring, and after the Ring was destroyed. So, put it simply the styling rings were no more than a cracker jack toy out of a box.

Then he moves on to design this door for Moria, and what kind of password is that? I mean if a brainless hobbit can figure out the password, then obviously he's a fraud. No wonder why Moria became infestered with Orcs and a Balrog, because this 'grand secret door' was more baloney by Celebrimbor.
So, + + Celebrimbor

mormegil 08-09-2006 12:54 PM

++Maglor

I think Tolkien, may he rest in peace, was a bit drunk when he came up with this name. Seriously what is 'Maglor' it's an awful name and I read once...I believe in letter 292 the Tolkien stated:

Quote:

I regret the name Maglor, things had been pretty rough in my life and the work wasn't going much anywhere at the time so I got a bit too drunk for my own good and thought I had a level of inspiration. Much too my chagrin I never caught the name and my editor never mentioned anything to me about the atrocity of a name that is Maglor. I really don't remember what I was thinking...if I even was. In retrospect his name matches the character...fairly useless and drab.
I've clearly demonstrated the the professor and I are in harmony on this. Therefore, if you love Tolkien and respect his works it is your duty to eliminate this embarassment of a character.

Glirdan 08-09-2006 01:28 PM

Oooo!! Good argument Morm! But I still don't like Durin or Arwen being in this game... Ugh!! Hmmm... What to do, what...to...do....

The Elf-warrior 08-09-2006 02:31 PM

++ Sauron

Because he is the evilest among the contestants. I have serious doubts about the authenticity of that quote mormegil.

The 1,000 Reader 08-09-2006 04:02 PM

++Tar-Mirel.

Seriously, what did she even do? Even Tolkien himself said that he thought her so unimportant that he barely gave her a name. All she did was get her crown stolen and died. All her crown being stolen did was try to show how sick Ar-Pharazon really was. She's a filler character, like a red-shirted ensign on Star Trek.

So, begone with the most useless character Tolkien ever wrote about.

(P.S. I predict that all the bad guys will be voted off, then any important good guys, and finally we'll have only minor characters, possibly one stronger but still minor character, and an Aniur.)

mormegil 08-09-2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

She's a filler character, like a red-shirted ensign on Star Trek.
Ah but she has a name!

Quote:

I have serious doubts about the authenticity of that quote mormegil.
I'm pretty sure it's authentic.

Firefoot 08-09-2006 04:13 PM

++Tom Bombadil

Got to honor old traditions... even if I don't find him as truly obnoxious as I used to, the songs do still get old after a while (maybe that's why he's not as obnoxious now that I just skip all his songs... :p ). Always going on about his yellow boots and whatnot, as if they couldn't tell that just by looking at him.

He doesn't deserve to be an All-Star anyway.

The 1,000 Reader 08-09-2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil
Ah but she has a name!

So did redshirts.

Boromir88 08-09-2006 04:24 PM

Hey I made a good argument for once...

++Celebrimbor

I wish I was around at the end of Day 2, I would have changed my vote to Manwe. If the WK was going down, Manwe sure would go down with him. I never understand why people always want to get rid of the bad guys, they're fun and great entertainment.

See with Sauron, you know he's down right evil and crazy. Celebrimbor he just masks himself as some glorious and brave good guy, but he's just a cheap petty worm.

Lalaith 08-09-2006 04:31 PM

Nothing wrong with redshirts. Garibaldi´s struggle to win independence for Italy and all that.
Brownshirts and blackshirts, on the other hand....

anyway, voting...

++TOM BOMBADIL


Everything Firefoot and Noggie said.
One of the few places where PJ and I totally see eye to eye.

Boromir88 08-09-2006 09:04 PM

What did Tom Bombadil ever do to you? :p

It's nice having a merry, singing, frolicking, yellow-booted guy around to cheer everyone up and hold everyone in good spirits. Kind of like a Richard Hatch character.

Glirdan 08-09-2006 10:03 PM

Thank you for saying exactly what I was going to say Boro! :rolleyes:

Anyway, my vote is for

++Arwen

She's still a usurper!!

Macalaure 08-10-2006 02:14 AM

What can I say about ol' Bombadillo that hasn't already been said?

I don't know.


++ Tom Bombadil

Especially for singing schlager - none of those people deserve surviving.

Nogrod 08-10-2006 03:28 AM

The voting clearly is taking a more reasonable path today...

++ Tom Bombadil

(For reasons, see day 1 and 2)

Mirkgirl 08-10-2006 03:49 AM

I'd still give Manwe a try... see yesterday for reasons

++ Manwe

Thinlómien 08-10-2006 06:40 AM

++Tom Bombadil

May I add to the case?
- He steals from the Barrow-Wight
- He drives the Barrow-Wight away from the 'Downs
- He drives potential BW's victims away

What crimes! As a barrow-downer I must say I'm horrified...

Bêthberry 08-10-2006 07:43 AM

Sure, do away with the funny one, the one who can provide humour when all else fails and a bit of hospitality, story and song. No sense keeping nonsense. What good's it for after all?

++ Manwe

Kuruharan 08-10-2006 08:09 AM

The one from Gondolin speaks sense!

++ Celebrimbor

Volo 08-10-2006 08:34 AM

Tom Bombadil depresses me with his optimism... :/
And he didn't even get into the film :Ö, what a loser (well, because there were no Barrow-Downs in the film... but that's different).
Very great reasons to get rid of him? No? Well, I won't even bother to vote him out, you do that for me. :D

wilwarin538 08-10-2006 08:36 AM

Votes thus far:

Celebrimbor - 3
Maglor - 1
Sauron - 1
Tar-Miriel -1
Tom Bombadil - 5
Arwen - 1
Manwe - 2

Rune Son of Bjarne 08-10-2006 08:58 AM

++Manwe

Imagine how things would have been, if he at a party in Valinor casually had mentioned to the Elves that the race of men would appear at some point. . .

mormegil 08-10-2006 09:38 AM

--Maglor

++Celebrimbor

wilwarin538 08-10-2006 11:54 AM

Day 3 wasn't quit as exciting as the first 2 days of All Star Survivor, but the votes were very close:

Celebrimbor - 4
Sauron - 1
Tar-Miriel -1
Tom Bombadil - 5
Arwen - 1
Manwe - 2

At the end of the day it was Tom Bombadil that received the most votes. :(

Tom stood up and walked away from his tribe. As he pranced away singing.........nothing terrible happened because he's one of my favorite characters. He just hopped a long singing happily, only slightly disappointed, and lived happily ever after.

:p

Thus ends Day 3!

Remaining contestants:

From the Lord of the Rings Survivor
Merry
Gimli
Hama
Gandalf
Arwen

From the Silmarillion Survivor
Maglor
Sauron
Elbereth
Osse
Manwe
Ingwe

From the Hobbit Survivor
Smaug
The Bullroarer
Gloin
Durin
Bofur

From the Second Age Survivor
Tar-Miriel
Celebrimbor
Celebrian
Thorondor
Tar-Aldarion
Ar-Pharazon

From the Minor Works Survivor
Chrysophylax Dives
Goldberry
Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
Perry-the-Winkle
Princess Pam

***************************************

You may now start voting!

I'm going on a little road trip with my family tomorrow, though we are leaving early in the morning, and I should be back in time, just wanted to warn you incase the plan changes and I end up being late.

mormegil 08-10-2006 01:33 PM

Is there actually any point in me voting for Maglor again? I can see that there are enough fans, I can't for the life of me understand why, but enough exist that he may be the favorite out there.


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