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Elu Ancalime 01-19-2006 11:21 AM

I posted on the thread Southern Elves? that dealt with Dorwinnion. I made a rather long post, and I am dying for feedback. Thanks to Estelyn to reffering me here. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Mithalwen 01-19-2006 11:40 AM

"If you plan on reading my post, read all of it and give it a minute, or don't read it at all. I dont want anybody to misunderstand what I meant because they didnt read all of it. thnx "

I only had time to skim read your post when it first appeared and have not had a chance to give it in depth consideration though it contained interesting ideas. I would tentatively suggest that your opening comment quoted above (despite the smiley) is daunting and discourages anything other than a full scale response. I know that it is frustrating when posts are misunderstood but I think you may have scared a few people off....

Thinlómien 01-19-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elu Ancalime
I posted on the thread Southern Elves? that dealt with Dorwinnion. I made a rather long post, and I am dying for feedback. Thanks to Estelyn to reffering me here. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Sorry, Elu, I intended to at least rep you for that, but I hadn't spread enough reputation to rep you, so I didn't. I will correct it when possible. The whole Southern Elves discussion actually is a bit pancake. Sincerely,
the starter of the whole thread in question

Elu Ancalime 01-19-2006 07:30 PM

Thanks Thinl?mien. I didnt want to sound like I was asking for users to rep me, but I didnt want someone to reply to something that I stated in the post. If you've ever written an FAQ walkthrough of a game(I havent) the writers hat eit when people email them a question adressed in the FAQ. Same concept. Ill be sure to change that if i want any response though.
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gralin musicteeth 01-19-2006 07:58 PM

NOBODY who has posted in this thread is as desperate for their thread to be successful as I have been for my pathetic threads. I even created an alter-ego to keep my threads alive (can you guess who it is???). But that was then. Now, I just don't care. I realize I don't have enough brain power to compete around here, so I hang out in Mirth.

Gurthang 01-20-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gralin musicteeth
I realize I don't have enough brain power to compete around here, so I hang out in Mirth.

That's not such a bad spot. I sometimes have the same feeling, and I just love Mirth regardless. :D Then there are other times that I think I can do well in Books and such, but I'm not sure that that's even true. (See Signature.)

THE Ka 01-20-2006 05:20 PM

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But really, what thread ideas of yours never worked out?
All of them!

:D

No really, if you want to base it upon if it made everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside, then yes.

Though, I have found that the only way you can get people to actually think is to make them challenge and profess each others' ideas. If everyone enjoys that, then I'm happy that everyone still creates thought. Even if they do hate me. At least everyone is thinking.

~ Ka

Gurthang 01-20-2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by THE Ka
No really, if you want to base it upon if it made everyone feel warm and fuzzy inside, then yes.

Though, I have found that the only way you can get people to actually think is to make them challenge and profess each others' ideas. If everyone enjoys that, then I'm happy that everyone still creates thought. Even if they do hate me. At least everyone is thinking.

Now isn't that kind of ironic. A 'successful' thread, meaning one that is long, is usually long because people are "discussing" there different opinions. *cough*arguing*cough* :rolleyes: So basically, we are happy with our thread when we cause people to disagree. What horrible people that makes us sound like! ;)

At least it is all for enjoyment. I mean, it's not like they don't like "discussing". :D

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 01-21-2006 11:14 AM

Success through stirring?
 
I would say that a successful thread is an interesting thread, and an interesting thread throws a new light on some aspect of its subject. Sometimes a lively debate can provide the interest, but often a lot of people who agree can build on one another's insights to create a fascinating read. Sometimes heated debate simply turns an interesting question into a string of posts that quote each other in detail as a prelude to tedious hair-splittings; an approach which is only gripping if you happen to be a combatant.

Perhaps success should be measured in terms of intent: the longest-running thread that I ever started has become at best a list and at worst a chat room, so I suppose that it wasn't thought out as well as it could have been. Strangely, my favourite among threads that I started only received very few responses, most of them from yours truly; but those few posts from other members justified the whole exercise, even if they all languish unread forever.

THE Ka 01-21-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurthang
Now isn't that kind of ironic. A 'successful' thread, meaning one that is long, is usually long because people are "discussing" there different opinions. *cough*arguing*cough* :rolleyes: So basically, we are happy with our thread when we cause people to disagree. What horrible people that makes us sound like! ;)

At least it is all for enjoyment. I mean, it's not like they don't like "discussing". :D


Well, upon analyzing the original post to this thread, and that of the psychological make-up of most members, the thread being long may be 'successful', but I believe most people prefer something that makes them happy or gives them a sense of joy, however short it may be. It really is a Quality vs. Quantity concept. Do you want a small gem or a push cart full of fool's gold?

What I meant wasn't that I liked people to 'disagree', only that they would show and support their own thoughts, and not the unconditional acceptance that we are bound to in society. We walk around with the belief, that, if we think, feel, and behave in accordance with the people around us, we'll get the positive regard we long for.
But, when we hit the grain of differences, we push out our ideas upon the matter and say, 'Hey! I think Balrogs DO have wings! And i'm going to explain my reasoning (personal ideas) to you...'

Yes, it may seem horrible, but at least there is thought. I can't imagine a Balrog thread on here that has been met with apathy...
And if there was one, then that would call reason for concern. I agree though, everyone has the conditional acceptance of discussion...

~ Rogerian Psychology Ka

Brinniel 07-10-2006 02:28 AM

In all my four years on the BD, I've only started nine threads, none of which were too successful, the best one being Real LOTR Places with 40 posts.

I consider my biggest failure to be Middle-earth's First Annual Invention Convention. I was hoping it to be an original fun-filled thread with many replies, but I only ended up with eight (one being myself). Perhaps my idea was a little too complicated..... I don't know. :confused:

zxcvbn 01-20-2008 01:16 PM

My biggest complaints about this forum are that there are so few members around, and even fewer who post. Yes, we have quality over quantity, but the quantity is so miniscule. For the past month, I've started many (IMHO) interesting threads but seeing the increasingly low response I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm like the posters above.:confused:

Hookbill the Goomba 01-20-2008 01:37 PM

I had big hopes for 'If This is the Answer, What is the Question?' but alas, it was not to be.
The 'Out of Context Contest' I thought had potential, but once again I was mistaken.

Of the threads I've started, I think only the Newspaper has been 'successful' so to speak. Although, the number of people reading it and the number of people disgusted by it are roughly the same.

Elmo 01-20-2008 02:49 PM

Just read my thread starting history! Memorable ones include when I wrote a long slating about Finarfin's role in the Noldor's rebellion, that had one reply :( and another about Gondor's role as a colonial power, that was completely ignored, then pity bumped, had a couple more replies and then ignored again :(

Eomer of the Rohirrim 01-21-2008 02:17 PM

Ah, the world of internet discussion: one crushing defeat after another. :p

The Barrow-Downs has a certain balance to it that I've always found reassuring. There are busier sites out there but they leave me bewildered and frightened. The Downs is home. Fear not about replies: someone will find your thread in a couple of years and restart it. There's a certain beauty to this phenomenon. :)

Gwathagor 01-21-2008 03:40 PM

Hmmm. Lower expectations = less disappointment. :cool:

Lalwendë 01-25-2008 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hookbill the Goomba (Post 544139)
Of the threads I've started, I think only the Newspaper has been 'successful' so to speak. Although, the number of people reading it and the number of people disgusted by it are roughly the same.

Such is the life of those holding positions of power in the Fourth Estate. Imagine how the editor of the Daily Mail feels ;)


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