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Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:38 PM
Okay, seriously. Now depending how many Wolves we have - which I would assume would be one or two - we anyway should make sure we get the voting right, I mean, if we get the voting wrong, it doesn't really matter.

If Nerwen is a Wolf and trying to go all-out with some scheme, I totally am not going to let that happen on my watch.

Nerwen 07-19-2017 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brinniel (Post 708364)
Some more thoughts....

If Boro is innocent that sudden bandwagon against him is troublesome, and I'd want to take a closer look Lalaith and Eomer who have pretty flown under my radar. If he turns out to be guilty however, I would say both of them look pretty innocentish. I mean, why set up a last minute lynch for a wolfish Boro when there were other lynch candidates to consider?

I don't think Legate's vote yesterDay tells us as much since he was next in line on the lynching block and his vote could have been made out of self-preservation. He did vote for Boro on all other Days, so Boro's guilt might make him look a bit better. Hounding on a fellow wolf throughout the entire game would be quite the risk, though not impossible. His opinions are still pretty non-committal, so without knowing Boro's identity, my feelings about him haven't really changed.

When Nerwen suspects someone, she is quite aggressive about it. I don't know, perhaps that is just her playing style. But I don't like how she is manipulating my past posts. When doing a post-by-post analysis of someone, it would be better if you used actual quotes or links rather than rephrasing what's been said.
Fair enough, but I'm doing this on a mobile device. I can only assure you that I have not been intentionally manipulating your posts. You're an enigma I'm trying to puzzle out.

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708370)
Lal, the GW could have informed gifted Nerwen about known innocents.
Well if that isn't the same kind of thing tho. I mean the replies are supposed to be roleplayed, they are conveyed. One would assume them to be filtered, otherwise it would not make much sense to have that rule in the first place.

Okay. It's basically about deciding. Everything now becomes sort of clearly black-or-white, and given all the previous evidence, I don't really trust Nerwen.

EDIT: x-ed with Nerwen

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:41 PM
The only thing keeping me back on this is Nerwen's timezone, which can explain why this is happening now.

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:42 PM
And anyway since I have two votes, it doesn't really matter. Because if I get lynched, then I *know* we are losing an innocent. Okay. So.

EDIT: x-ed with Eomer

Shastanis Althreduin 07-19-2017 05:43 PM
I'm beginning to wonder about Lal now. I don't think we should split the vote today, but her insistence on wanting to vote Eonwe is weird to me.

satansaloser2005 07-19-2017 05:43 PM
AT LAST! THE LOAD IS COMPLETE AGAIN.

I tried to post a few times throughout the day, but the wireless at work was being fickle and it appears it didn't work. Give me a few minutes (if that) to catch up properly.

As an aside, my vote from yesterDay keeps getting left out of the vote tallies. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Disregard the last, as it was fixed and I didn't notice.

Nerwen 07-19-2017 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708370)
Lal, the GW could have informed gifted Nerwen about known innocents.
Bingo.

Unfortunately I don't know Legate's role- I have had some suspicion of him, but mainly I'm voting him mainly because he's had one vote and isn't Eonwe.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:43 PM
If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?

Lalaith 07-19-2017 05:44 PM
I had assumed from reading the rules that the GW was only allowed to discuss strategy with Gifteds. I thought no naming of names was allowed. I may well have assumed wrong. Kuru please advise?

Nerwen 07-19-2017 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 708386)
I'm beginning to wonder about Lal now. I don't think we should split the vote today, but her insistence on wanting to vote Eonwe is weird to me.
Yes. I've tended to trust her, but as you say it's getting a bit weird.

Edit: x'd since my last.

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:45 PM
It is in any case obvious that either Nerwen is now protecting Eonwe, or I don't know what. Eonwe, what do you have to say about all this, by the way?

EDIT: x-ing with everyone

Lalaith 07-19-2017 05:47 PM
I'm not being weird, I'm being tired.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:48 PM
I'm going for best of both worlds here; don't vote Eonwe, don't vote Nerwen. If she's telling the truth, or lying, there's another 2 wolves out there.

satansaloser2005 07-19-2017 05:48 PM
My mental light bulb seems to have a short. Why is Nerwen suddenly such a topic of murderous conversation? This is madness, yes, but an evil Nerwen would have no reason to draw such attention to herself at this moment.

With Nog gone, I'm strongly leaning toward Legate being my top suspect, but look for that to possibly change? We'll see. I'm still catching up and trying to go back and piece some things together. I'm really quite bitter my posts kept getting eaten today. *grump*


x'd with a host

Nerwen 07-19-2017 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalaith (Post 708390)
I had assumed from reading the rules that the GW was only allowed to discuss strategy with Gifteds. I thought no naming of names was allowed. I may well have assumed wrong. Kuru please advise?
You assumed wrong. The GW can't identify gifteds to each other, but can give other information, including "x is innocent".

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708389)
If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?
Not that on top of everything.

Ok. I want to hear from Eönwë what he has to say for himself.

Then - heck. I could vote for Nerwen. Or I could vote for Eönwë, but I want to hear from him first, because if Nerwen is pulling some super-complicated scheme and dragging innocent Eönwë into something...

But really, this is getting so muddled up that I could just vote also Eönwë because it is anyway possible he is a Wolf as well. I mean objectively he was even more suspicious than her. So maybe it is EW Nerwen trying to save a Wolf of hers?

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 708397)
My mental light bulb seems to have a short. Why is Nerwen suddenly such a topic of murderous conversation? This is madness, yes, but an evil Nerwen would have no reason to draw such attention to herself at this moment.
Unless she was an EW protecting a Wolf? Or a Wolf anyway; if the WWs are close to win, it doesn't really matter there.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:51 PM
2 votes for Legate, and Sally wants to add to that.

Kuruharan 07-19-2017 05:52 PM
Same rule as before.

Votes after my deadline post will not count.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:52 PM
Ok, it looks like we're heading to true endgame. In which case, I see no reason to not believe Nerwen unless someone else claims otherwise.

While I've suspected Brinniel for a while (and maybe my judgement was clouded because she's suspected me so heavily), she's seemed pretty genuine toDay, so I'm not inclined to vote her. I'm also more suspicious of others (see below), and I don't particularly see any evidence of her being in a wolf-pack with them.

Shasta is eternally a mystery to me, but toDay he seems better than he has so far. I'm willing to accept that his submarineishness so far has been due to RL reasons as he claims, and he hasn't done anything particularly suspicious so far, so he gets a pass from me for toDay


So, basically, it's down to Legate, Eomer, Sally and Lalaith.

Nerwen 07-19-2017 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708404)
2 votes for Legate, and Sally wants to add to that.
And I don't know why, because I don't know what either of them are.

Brinniel 07-19-2017 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer
If there's no lynch today, and a kill at night, and the last wolf created, we lose. Is EW Nerwen trying to get us to attempt a lynch on her?
That's a possibility.

Or a Nerwolf has decided to make a risky move and out herself as gifted. And hoping we'd give her benefit of the doubt, direct the lynch away from the baddies and toward an innocent. If someone is killed toNight, or a wolf turned, that would end the game as well.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:53 PM
Sally, while mostly absent, hasn't done anything particularly eyebrow-raising so for, so, since this might literally be the last Day, I'm going to ignore her for now.

satansaloser2005 07-19-2017 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 708403)
Unless she was an EW protecting a Wolf? Or a Wolf anyway; if the WWs are close to win, it doesn't really matter there.
That's a fair point, but it doesn't seem very Nerwen to me.

I really feel like the Nerwen shenanigans are being blown out of proportion to detract from the actual baddies.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 708411)
I really feel like the Nerwen shenanigans are being blown out of proportion to detract from the actual baddies.
Agreed. I'm inclined to believe her.

My bet is that at least 2 of Legate, Lalaith, and Eomer are evil.

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:55 PM
Shasta has been gung ho for Legate for days, and Nerwen has jumped on that today. Those are the 2 votes so far.

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:56 PM
Ok, no way. If I die, we are losing an innocent. So now I am totally about self-preservation.

Is there anyone most people would agree on?

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:56 PM
Well Nerwen, I really hope you're a good guy, because it looks like you have the support.

satansaloser2005 07-19-2017 05:56 PM
I've been at least mildly consistent in my suspicion of Steve, so putting aside the stuff with him and Nerwen from today, I would happily vote for him, because he had plenty of suspicion his way yesterday and then all of a sudden today things have gone nuts.

Mind, this doesn't mean Legate is off the hook. I'd be willing to bet they're both evil.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:56 PM
Worryingly, the Dead Thread Empowerment is really going to make a difference toDay.

Lalaith 07-19-2017 05:56 PM
What is probably going to happen is that Legate will be lynched. I'm too tired to make proper sense of this but I think the Nerwen may be lying so I would like to open up the option for an alternative.
++eonwe

Shastanis Althreduin 07-19-2017 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708414)
Shasta has been gung ho for Legate for days, and Nerwen has jumped on that today. Those are the 2 votes so far.
And no one else has jumped on. That ought to tell you something.

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:58 PM
Okay, let's hope for the best.

++Eonwe

So I hope we'll be here still toMorrow.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:58 PM
Well, I'd better not split the vote.

++Legate

Eomer of the Rohirrim 07-19-2017 05:58 PM
++shasta

Legate of Amon Lanc 07-19-2017 05:58 PM
Guh.

Eönwë 07-19-2017 05:59 PM
Also, I may be mistaken, but for future reference (assuming there is a toMorrow), I seem to remember Nog suggesting a possible Legate+Eomer wolf-team.

satansaloser2005 07-19-2017 05:59 PM
I'll assist Lal in hedging our bets. I feel pretty comfortable with either candidate, but Steve has rung alarm bells for a while longer, so best to go with my initial instincts.

++Steve


x'd since Shasta's #713

Shastanis Althreduin 07-19-2017 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim (Post 708424)
++shasta


:rolleyes:


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