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Nerwen 02-07-2008 07:11 PM

Yes. Told you it was lame.:)

Your turn.

Thinlómien 02-29-2008 04:47 AM

*bump*
 
McCaber?

McCaber 02-29-2008 09:53 AM

Woah, totally forgot about this one. All right:

Tuor was to Turgon

as

_____ was to Samwise

Nerwen 03-01-2008 05:47 AM

Faramir Took? He was his friend's son and he married his daughter.

McCaber 03-02-2008 12:44 PM

Right, of course. Your turn.

The Might 03-27-2008 02:06 PM

Well, since nobody is posting, an easy one to get things back on track.

The Crown of Gondor is to the Kings of Gondor as
? is to the Kings of Arnor

Thinlómien 03-27-2008 03:11 PM

Sceptre of the Northern Kingdom, or whatever is the fancy way to phrase it... ;)

The Might 03-27-2008 07:28 PM

True

Thinlómien 03-29-2008 06:46 AM

Okay, this is an odd question...

Arien is to Morgoth
as
Sam is to ________

Nerwen 03-29-2008 07:06 AM

Shelob?

She couldn't bear the light of the star-glass, just as Morgoth could bear the light of the sun.

Thinlómien 03-29-2008 08:02 AM

Good, you're on the right track, but in that case I would have said "star-glass", not Sam...

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-29-2008 08:07 AM

Then it does look very strange and hard to make it fit to make sense. I can only think about Snaga :D But that looks very odd as well.

Thinlómien 03-29-2008 08:24 AM

Well, in fact, I was thinking about Snaga. :D But once again I'm a bit baffled by own logic :p, so if you could tell me how did you reach that conclusion, it'd be good.

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-29-2008 08:57 AM

Yes, I see... :) Well, I was mainly thinking that they (Morgoth and Snaga) were both scared by the other, and could not withstand the other's presence... did not dare to go to the other's presence... (in Morgoth's case, kind of indirectly) I actually thought about some other reason but now I seem to have forgotten it :D ...in any case, when you speak about Sam, there could be hardly anyone else than Snaga in such connection.

Thinlómien 03-29-2008 12:24 PM

Okay, but that is only half of it but anyway the thread is yours. I was also thinking about the aspect that Morgoth was afraid of Arien, even though he was more powerful and she was, and in the same manner we could maybe say that Snaga was more powerful than Sam was. (Okay, it depends on how we define power. In fact, Sam would probably be more powerful in many ways.) But yes anyway, please take the thread. :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-29-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 551701)
I was also thinking about the aspect that Morgoth was afraid of Arien, even though he was more powerful and she was, and in the same manner we could maybe say that Snaga was more powerful than Sam was.

I don't think he was more powerful, actually, even if you look at it by the simple measurement of "who had bigger attack bonus" :D Maybe Snaga had some military training after him (but rather just the experience of serving under Shagrat than some "proper" training), but still I don't think he would have been more skilful in combat than Sam. Although it's possible.

Anyway...

Saruman is to Lotho
as
Túrin is to _____

The Might 03-31-2008 07:43 AM

Maybe Brandir.
Just as Saruman was the real master of the Men, although officially it was Lotho so did the Haladin no longer give heed to Brandir, but actually listened to Túrin.

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-31-2008 09:21 AM

No, no, not exactly. The matter with Saruman and Lotho was more complicated than between Túrin and Brandir, the similarity in this aspect is not very good. Try again.

Gwathagor 04-03-2008 11:16 PM

Forweg the Outlaw. Turin killed him, and then ruled the fellowship of outlaws himself, similar to the way Saruman had Lotho killed before he took control of the Shire.

Legate of Amon Lanc 04-04-2008 04:11 AM

Good, good, Uncle Gwathy! (oh sorry, I meant Gwath :) ) Please take the thread. :)

Gwathagor 04-04-2008 02:22 PM

Tol Morwen is to Beleriand as
________ is to Numenor

The Might 04-05-2008 04:25 AM

Ok, so Tol Morwen was left there after Beleriand sunk, meaning that I must find an island that remained after Numenor was destroyed.

Aha, the Isle of Meletrama, although this seems to rather be a myth amongst Dúnedain rather than a real place.

Gwathagor 04-05-2008 06:30 PM

That's right, of course.

Eönwë 04-21-2008 04:57 PM

*bump*
 
Reviving a thread

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-20-2008 11:59 PM

Simplizismus:
 
Bilbo is to Frodo

as

_______ is to Dior.

Nerwen 06-21-2008 02:29 AM

Lúthien?

In each case, the second party inherited magic jewellery from the first.

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-22-2008 02:57 AM

Nope, but it is the inheritance connexion.

Nerwen 06-22-2008 03:26 AM

Thingol, then?

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-22-2008 03:45 AM

That's it.
 
Your turn. :)

Urwen 03-12-2010 07:46 AM

Eldacar is to Castamir as
Miriel is to ___________

The Might 03-12-2010 08:56 AM

Nice to see this thread revived!
I'd have to guess it's Ar-Pharazon.

Both he and Castamir usurped the throne of Númenor/Gondor from the rightful ruler Eldacar/Miriel.

Urwen 03-12-2010 09:50 AM

Right you are.Go on!

The Might 03-13-2010 09:51 AM

Thought I'd keep it linked, so:

Ar-Pharazon is to Miriel as
Brodda is to ______

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-13-2010 02:37 PM

Aerin? Forced marriage of the evil overlord with a good noblewoman?

The Might 03-13-2010 06:32 PM

Correct again. ;)

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-14-2010 07:54 AM

Beren the Steward is to Mouth of Sauron
as
_________ is to Lotho Sackville-Baggins

:) Happy riddling.

The Might 03-14-2010 03:11 PM

I'd have to say Frodo Baggins.

The links are:
Beren - Saruman - Mouth of Sauron - Isengard
Frodo - Lobelia - Lotho - Bag End

The order both times is:
Rightful owner - rightful new owner - unrightful new or possible new owner - place of interest.

Legate of Amon Lanc 03-14-2010 04:45 PM

Perfect, agreed. Just for your interest, I would have accepted also one different solution of the riddle, which would be Argeleb II. (if we took Lotho's rulership as over the whole Shire, and here the unlawful ownership would be even more strongly underlined). But well done!

I should also say, funnily enough, when I was making this question, I was considering at one point to write an untraditional riddle with several blank gaps to fill (like: Beren - X - X / X - Lobelia - Lotho), and your links are basically the copy of that :D

The Might 03-19-2010 08:10 AM

Pippin is to Denethor as
Theoden to ______

Urwen 03-19-2010 08:31 AM

Aragorn?


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