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symestreem 03-19-2004 03:12 PM

So close!
 
I'm going to give it to you, because you're so close that if I didn't accept it I'd be nitpicking.

Mablung fell before the doors of Thingol's treasury.
Haleth fell before the doors of Meduseld.
Denethor's servants (not the porter) fell before the door of the House of Stewards.
Saruman and Wormtongue fell before the door of Bag End.

No one fell before the "door" of Osgiliath because Osgiliath, being a city and not a room or building, would have gates not doors. (It's not even walled, is it?)

*pats thread fondly and walks away* The thread is yours, NightKnight.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-20-2004 02:04 AM

Blast!
 
Foiled again! :mad:

NightKnight 03-20-2004 04:09 AM

Then get this one, Nil. :)

Formenos
Angband
Gondolin
Nargothrond
Tol-in-Gaurhoth

The Perky Ent 03-20-2004 11:53 PM

Hmm...
 
Hmm....would it be Angbad?

Formenos - Morgoth invaded and took the simarils
Gondolin - Morgoth's servants discovered and invaded
Nargothrond - Morgoth sent Glaurung to invade the stronghold
Tol-in-Gaurhoth - Sauron invaded and captured the Isle

Therefore, Angbad is the OPO because it was the only place that wasn't invaded by forces of evil!

NightKnight 03-21-2004 05:12 AM

That's wrong.

The Perky Ent 03-21-2004 08:46 AM

Wrong Wrong, or Right Wrong
 
NK, Am i wrong in the sense that my info is wrong, or wrong, but my info is right?

NightKnight 03-21-2004 09:58 AM

Your info is right, but your answer is not.

symestreem 03-21-2004 11:48 AM

They were all attacked by an opposing force, but Tol-in-Gaurhoth was the only one occupied. Or, Formenos was the only one not destroyed or injured in some way.

NightKnight 03-21-2004 12:40 PM

Wrong.....

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-21-2004 09:18 PM

Angband - was occupied by Morgoth.
Gondolin - was occupied by Morgoth's forces
Nargothrond - was occupied by Glaurung, Morgoth's "pet"
Tol-in-Gaurhoth - was occupied by Sauron, Morgoth's lieutenant.

Formenos - OPO

NightKnight 03-22-2004 01:20 AM

Wrong again. I'm beginning to think I've made a hard one! :D

Finwe 03-22-2004 03:45 PM

Angband, because it was the only place that was never an Elvish stronghold at any point.

symestreem 03-22-2004 03:46 PM

Angband was the only one that wasn't a fortress of the elves.

NightKnight 03-23-2004 01:25 AM

Not what I was looking for.

symestreem 03-25-2004 07:03 PM

I'm going to go for the really obvious and say that Formenos was the only one that was not located in Beleriand.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-25-2004 07:47 PM

Formenos...
 
...was the only one that didn't fall in a battle.

By battle I mean about half a thousand troops on both sides. ;)

NightKnight 03-27-2004 06:03 AM

Both wrong.

symestreem 03-27-2004 08:18 AM

Gondolin is the only city among them.

Arvedui III 03-27-2004 12:16 PM

Tol-in-Gaurhoth was the only fortress where an elf destroyed it. (Luthien)

NightKnight 03-28-2004 06:57 AM

Nay.

symestreem 03-28-2004 09:43 AM

Gondolin was the only one that fell through treachery... wait... wait...

Turgon died at Gondolin
Finrod died at Tol-in-Gaurhoth
Orodreth died at Nargothrond
Finwe died at Formenos

Angband is the only one where an elf-king did not die?

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-28-2004 07:50 PM

Fingolfin and Fëanor did die before Angband...
 
...but not actually in/on it.

OK...Formenos was the only one not in Middle-earth? :)

NightKnight 03-29-2004 12:34 AM

Symestreem has the right reasoning, but the wrong OPO. I guess it's who gets here first now...

symestreem 03-29-2004 07:44 AM

Symestreem gets here first, but hasn't a clue what you're talking about.

Gondolin is the only one where an elf-king is not slain?

Lindolirian 03-29-2004 05:07 PM

Formenos- You put it first in the list. It's gotta be it, cause that's just the way you are... :rolleyes: Ok, and it doesn't fit the rest of the criteria
Angband- Fell because of Earendil's (who was half Man) plea to the Valar for help
Gondolin- Many of its people were saved from its sack by Tuor
Nargothrond- Was destroyed easily because of Turin's decision to build a bridge
Tol-in-Gaurhoth- Was destroyed for the sake of Beren's escape

Formenos was the only one whose downfall did not concern or involve a Man.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-29-2004 09:45 PM

I got it!
 
Tol-in-Gaurhoth is the only place where a High-King of the Noldor didn't die...albeit my father did. :(

NightKnight 03-30-2004 06:30 AM

Nil is very close now. :D

And Lindo, how do you know I'm like that? :cool:

symestreem 03-30-2004 08:30 AM

Attack of the bold type!!!!
 
Well, neither Finrod Felagund nor Orodreth were High Kings of Noldor, being the sons of Finarfin...

OK. First, Finwe dies at Formenos, leaving Fingolfin as High King of the Noldor and the oldest of the "accepted" (non-Feanorian/not banished) line. Then, Fingolfin dies at Angband, leaving Fingon as High King of the Noldor and the oldest. Fingon dies in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, leaving Turgon as the eldest in the eldest line. If he was never proclaimed High King, he had the right. Then Turgon dies at Gondolin, leaving... um... I guess Finrod Felagund would be next. He dies at Tol-in-Gaurhoth (sorry, Nil), leaving Orodreth as the eldest who could claim that title. He dies at Nargothrond.

I don't know if this matters, but on your list Nargothrond is the only one that does not fit the above... um... reasoning. The event that occurs there is out of order chronologically... Finrod dies in Tol-in-Gaurhoth before Orodreth dies in Nargothrond. On the list it's out of order. So that would make Nargothrond the OPO because it's the only place where an elf-king didn't die there within that time frame. Ie, noone died there between Turgon's death and Finrod's death.
Does that make any sense whatsoever?

NightKnight 03-30-2004 03:15 PM

Eh...I think so. You get it, the answer was as simple as that no elfking died in Nargothrond - Orodreth died at the field of Tumladen.

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-31-2004 09:18 PM

My father can't be High King of Noldor in Middle-earth, because the eldest line was the House of Fingolfin. After Turgon Ereinion Gil-galad was the next king.

Just a tidbit there. Carry on.

symestreem 04-01-2004 01:09 PM

Boy, do I feel stupid now
 
I stand corrected, Nilpaurion.
I need a few days to come up with something hopefully easier than my last one... I'll be back then.

symestreem 04-05-2004 06:04 PM

Here's the next set. I'm telling you now that it has nothing to do with death. Think happy thoughts!!

Rivendell
Beorn's house
Minas Tirith the 2nd
Vinyamar
Ivrin

The Perky Ent 04-11-2004 09:08 PM

Ivrin, the only place where someone didn't live?

Evisse the Blue 04-12-2004 12:34 AM

Beorn's house - the only one not near a river?

symestreem 04-14-2004 02:11 PM

Nyet.

Bombadil 04-14-2004 02:45 PM

Beorn's house,only place not banking off of mountains, or in mountainous area?

symestreem 04-15-2004 05:43 PM

Nien. Think happy, hobbit-like thoughts!!! :) :cool:

NightKnight 04-16-2004 03:26 AM

Hobbit-like, you say? Does that perhaps involve food? :rolleyes:

There were no parties at Ivrin?

symestreem 04-16-2004 03:24 PM

Right reasoning, but the wrong OPO.

NightKnight 04-16-2004 03:57 PM

Gotta be Vinyamar then.


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