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autume98 05-20-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630687)
Language, princess. But I concur. Now let's honestly drop it. Suspicion lists, everyone? Maybe?

EDIT: x'd with Lottie. And I know right, I know, right? This can't end well. :p

Oooohhh! I've got suspicions! Pick me, pick me!!!

No..too bad:

Once again
Innocent:
Boro
BG
Me
????

Really Guilty:
Cel -- they have to be since they are a gifted
Hunter -- not sure who they are though

Suspicious:
Everyone else

Loslote 05-20-2010 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630687)
Language, princess. But I concur. Now let's honestly drop it. Suspicion lists, everyone? Maybe?

EDIT: x'd with Lottie. And I know right, I know, right? This can't end well. :p

Heh. That took me a minute to figure out. :p Anyway...

Suspect:
Tum
Morsul

Mostly trust:
Mira
Sally
Zil
Noia

Trust:
Me
Xed

...there's fewer people than I thought. I kept thinking I'd forgotten someone...:rolleyes:

EDIT: xed

Keeper of Dol Guldur 05-20-2010 09:54 PM

A list! (because I haven't done anything else useful today...)
 
Suspect:
Tum

Have irrational bad feelings toward:
Sally

Ish trust:
Inzil
Lottie
Paranoia
Morsul

Trust:
Cel
Me

satansaloser2005 05-20-2010 09:54 PM

You don't trust me? But I'm innocent and everything. :(


Lol and Xed? *blinks* I'm too tired for this crap. :p



Shut it, Tum. Go crawl in a hole and....well, and die. :D



Mostly dead:
Tum

"People in masks cannot be trusted":
Morsul
Mira (?)

"We are at an impasse":
Dun
Paranoia

"As you wish":
Lottie (her recent posts have switched me around on her)


EDIT: Put Lottie twice instead of typing Dun. Fixed it to be as intended.

Inziladun 05-20-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630687)
Language, princess. But I concur. Now let's honestly drop it. Suspicion lists, everyone? Maybe?

Suspicions will, of course, be clearer when the Hunter is known.

Innocent

Me
Cel--> Ranger

Probably Innocent

Paranoia--> For previously stated reasons.
Lottie--> Considered an unlikely wolf by Nerwen, and I haven't looked back yet to find anything on her.

Borderline

Morsul--> His record has been spotty; no vote on Day 1, what may have been an attempt to save tum toDay (or just an egregious lack of attention).

Possibly Furry

Sally--> The circumstances around the voting for Boro and subsequent forcing of Nerwen to reveal still bother me.

Mira--> The odd interplay with Boro, and a general inability to get a good read on her.

A Homicidal Wolf

tum

Loslote 05-20-2010 09:57 PM

Sally: Celly's Xed. ;) Also, yay for Princess Bride. :p

satansaloser2005 05-20-2010 09:58 PM

Irrational, certainly, Mira. But why?



Also, if Morsul's not guilty I'm going to be very confused. Then again, not a lot has made sense to me recently, so meh. *shrugs*


EDIT: x'd with Lottie. Oh for the duh, I wasn't paying attention.

Morsul the Dark 05-20-2010 10:00 PM

well then prepared to be be confused... because I'm innocent. and Maybe you're more innocent than I think. You're recent activity has me feeling good... well good about your innocence at any rate. so I suppose I'll turn my attention elsewhere.

Keeper of Dol Guldur 05-20-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630694)
Irrational, certainly, Mira. But why?

Irrational by definition needs no reason. :p

But really it's just hit that point in the game where if you're innocent you're usually dead and wolf!sally frolics around. I really need to go to bed. I'm not even making sense to myself at this point. But before I go:

++Tum

satansaloser2005 05-20-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur (Post 630696)
Irrational by definition needs no reason. :p

But really it's just hit that point in the game where if you're innocent you're usually dead and wolf!sally frolics around.

I'm rather surprised I'm alive too, to be honest. It's kind of weird. But for me to last this long and then die for no reason toMorrow would be really irksome. If anything, I'd rather be Night killed. Really, though, it'd be nice to survive.

Loslote 05-20-2010 10:25 PM

I've got to go, but to sum up for toMorrow (just in case):

Probably lynch Morsul.

Don't lynch Zil or Sally.

That's about it. Good Night, sleep tight, don't let the wolfies bite and all that.

satansaloser2005 05-20-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 630698)
I've got to go, but to sum up for toMorrow (just in case):

Probably lynch Morsul.

Don't lynch Zil or Sally.

That's about it. Good Night, sleep tight, don't let the wolfies bite and all that.


(That's) what she said. Good night, all.

Paranoia 05-20-2010 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630691)
You don't trust me? But I'm innocent and everything. :(


Lol and Xed? *blinks* I'm too tired for this crap. :p



Shut it, Tum. Go crawl in a hole and....well, and die. :D



Mostly dead:
Tum

"People in masks cannot be trusted":
Morsul
Mira (?)

"We are at an impasse":
Dun
Paranoia

"As you wish":
Lottie (her recent posts have switched me around on her)


EDIT: Put Lottie twice instead of typing Dun. Fixed it to be as intended.

Oh hi Princess Bride reference. <_<

Wolf: Tum dur hurp


Shows signs of being hairy:

Morsul- I have a genuinely hard time believing that anyone could manage to miss what happened yesterday, especially someone who's been about since the start. Still

Keeper - Has an "irrational" fear of Sally; not sure if this is to get in another mislynch, but

Well Shaven:

Sally - Honestly, with what I provided yesterday, I have a hard time believing she's a wolf; the only way that sally is a wolf is if she was desperately trying to shut down a seer claim she knew was coming, and I honestly don't see that happening.

Lottie - Honestly, Boromir plays big time into my shift on her; she felt like an easy bandwagon at an early point in the game to him and almost got her lynched; I can't see one wolf putting another in danger like that.

Zul - Feels spotless to me. Also shutting down a possible mislynch (Me <_< ) makes me look decidedly favorably on him.

Hairless:

Paranoia - teehee!

Shastanis Althreduin 05-20-2010 11:08 PM

Day 4 over.

Tum was, obviously, a wolf. One to go.

Plots will go up on my first day off (I know I keep saying this, but I want to want to write them and Nerwen was far too good a Seer (although she is my love).)

In other news, Morsul is modfired by request. He was an ordo.

Alive:
Mira
Inzil
Sally
Lottie
Celuien
Paranoia

Dead:
Shasta - Head Pulveriz'd Night 1 (Mod)
Nienna - Ping Pong'd Day 1 (Ordo)
Izzy - Night-Blind'd Night 2 (Cobbler)
Wilwa - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Boro - Om Nomm'd Day 2 (Wolf)
McCaber - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Glirdan - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Elfie - Forcibly Ramm'd Night 3 (Ordo)
Blind - Beaten and Ston'd (har har) Day 3 (Wolf)
Nerwen - One Hit KO'd Night 4 (Seer)
Tum - Crush'd Day 4 (Wolf)
Morsul - Asplod'd Day 4 (Ordo)

Shastanis Althreduin 05-21-2010 11:00 PM

Night 5

Celuien stayed awake, watching over someone (which is hard to do in a pitch black cavern when you're falling at terminal velocity. This could explain that, when she went to fend off what looked like a menacing shadow, she didn't notice the wolf behind her, coming in for a four-claw landing.

Ouch.

Alive:
Mira
Inzil
Sally
Lottie
Paranoia

Dead:
Shasta - Head Pulveriz'd Night 1 (Mod)
Nienna - Ping Pong'd Day 1 (Ordo)
Izzy - Night-Blind'd Night 2 (Cobbler)
Wilwa - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Boro - Om Nomm'd Day 2 (Wolf)
McCaber - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Glirdan - Asplod'd Day 2 (Ordo)
Elfie - Forcibly Ramm'd Night 3 (Ordo)
Blind - Beaten and Ston'd (har har) Day 3 (Wolf)
Nerwen - One Hit KO'd Night 4 (Seer)
Tum - Crush'd Day 4 (Wolf)
Morsul - Asplod'd Day 4 (Ordo)
Celuien - Outfak'd Night 5 (Ranger)

Paranoia 05-21-2010 11:04 PM

Okay, I'd like to kick off the day by noting we need to be cautious; if the wolves haven't used their extra kill yet this is technically lylo; do not vote unless you are absolutely proof positive that your lynch target is a wolf. One wrong vote from a townie won't sink us; two will.

Well. Let's get down to business.

Paranoia 05-21-2010 11:06 PM

Also Lylo is Lynch or Lose. It's the general principle behind when the town must lynch properly or lose.

Inziladun 05-21-2010 11:14 PM

I was afraid Cel would be the target. It only made sense.

Now is the time for our Hunter to come forth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia (Post 630751)
Okay, I'd like to kick off the day by noting we need to be cautious; if the wolves haven't used their extra kill yet this is technically lylo; do not vote unless you are absolutely proof positive that your lynch target is a wolf. One wrong vote from a townie won't sink us; two will.

There's only one of us who is sure of who the wolf is. I think it's likely the wolves have already used their double-kill but you're right: this is the time for attention to detail.

Inziladun 05-21-2010 11:24 PM

To clarify, they likely used their double-kill when going after Nerwen; but if that isn't the case and the wolf gets away toDay, it is indeed the end of the line.

Shastanis Althreduin 05-21-2010 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630754)
To clarify, they likely used their double-kill when going after Nerwen; but if that isn't the case and the wolf gets away toDay, it is indeed the end of the line.

Nerwen was not the target of a double wolf-kill. I would have said so in the plot (or failing that, mentioned it personally).

(Personally I thought "one-hit-ko'd" was a hint, myself. :rolleyes:)

Loslote 05-21-2010 11:37 PM

Well, thank you Morsul - we have now reached a critical mass of innocentdom. :rolleyes:

Anywho, listie:

Suspect somewhat:
Mira

Trust mostly:
Noia
Zil

Trust very muchly:
Sally

Trust:
Me
Hunter?

So basically, Hunter, reveal soonish, please. *snuggles dear Hunter*

EDIT: xed with Mr. Mod

Loslote 05-21-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 630755)
Nerwen was not the target of a double wolf-kill. I would have said so in the plot (or failing that, mentioned it personally).

So the wolf still has their double kill? :o

Inziladun 05-21-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin (Post 630755)
Nerwen was not the target of a double wolf-kill. I would have said so in the plot (or failing that, mentioned it personally).

(Personally I thought "one-hit-ko'd" was a hint, myself. :rolleyes:)

Now that you mention it, I do recall that 'one-hit' description, but I didn't put two and two together. Bloody hell.

Then this is it.

x/d with Lottie x 2

Inziladun 05-21-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 630756)
Well, thank you Morsul - we have now reached a critical mass of innocentdom. :rolleyes:

Anywho, listie:

Suspect somewhat:
Mira

Trust mostly:
Noia
Zil

Trust very muchly:
Sally

Trust:
Me
Hunter?

So basically, Hunter, reveal soonish, please. *snuggles dear Hunter*

Why do you suspect Mira over Sally?

Loslote 05-21-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630760)
Why do you suspect Mira over Sally?

I trust Sally. If we lynch Sally, I'm almost positive we'll lose. There is no possible way she's a wolf. Mira I don't trust, and she's the most suspicious of the village (I think). You and Noia seem pretty innocent to me, but I still would trust Sally far more than either of you. :)

Inziladun 05-21-2010 11:51 PM

I have to question a statement like "There's no possible way X could be a wolf". Like I said, there's only one person left who knows the identity of the last wolf.

Paranoia 05-21-2010 11:53 PM

Honestly the best bet for the win is for us to use our "double lynch" today; have the hunter claim... and leave it in their hands. It's not something I like to do but 2/4 is better odds than the 1/5.

So uhhhh what Lottie said.

Also, Zul, like I said about Sally, it's a huge stretch that Sally'd try to stop the Boro lynch for a BG one in place of just letting Boro die; if Sally hadn't pushed BG, Nerwen wouldn't have claimed, because the Boro wagon would have just gone through. The wolves would have just probably killed her to be safe, and then we wouldn't be down 3 out of 4 instead of a probable 2/4; based on this logic, it's very very unlikely that Sally would have pushed so hard for something that was so detrimental to the wolves.

Lottie for the previously explained reasons.

I'm thinking Sally already sorta claimed hunter though so uh... hurp. Waiting on her. Mira feels the most suspicious person here but lemme go analyze some of her stuff.

Edit: Crossed with Lottie and Zul.

Loslote 05-21-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630762)
I have to question a statement like "There's no possible way X could be a wolf". Like I said, there's only one person left who knows the identity of the last wolf.

Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets. ;) Even easier than you, Zil.

EDIT: xed with Noia

Inziladun 05-22-2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 630765)
Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets. ;) Even easier than you, Zil.

Well, I'm not the Hunter, so it could be Sally. She was throwing out enough hints.

I've had misgivings about Sally, not only for the drama around Boro's lynch, but also for one or two other things I've noticed. Then again, I do have a tendancy to suspect her as a rule, and she apparently feels the same about me. I recall getting her lynched once when we were both innocent, and that gave the game to the wolves. It does somewhat comfort me that both you and Para trust her.

Loslote 05-22-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630766)
Well, I'm not the Hunter, so it could be Sally. She was throwing out enough hints.

I've had misgivings about Sally, not only for the drama around Boro's lynch, but also for one or two other things I've noticed. Then again, I do have a tendancy to suspect her as a rule, and she apparently feels the same about me. I recall getting her lynched once when we were both innocent, and that gave the game to the wolves. It does somewhat comfort me that both you and Para trust her.

I was caught up in the same drama she was in, remember. Thus, by sheer numbers, at least one innocent was involved in that - and chances are, both of us were. I happen to think it was both.

And she certainly was throwing out hints. Did anyone else notice how many times she used the word 'hunt' in conversation? :p

Keeper of Dol Guldur 05-22-2010 02:12 AM

It's 4am and I can't sleep! Yay!
 
People need to stop friggin' requesting to be modkilled. Takes a lot of the fun right out of the game. Anyway, I'm seein' a lot of suspicion of me being thrown around here. Let's take care of that straight off. I'm the Hunter. I was really hoping someone would pick up on that sooner (like around page 12 where the following gem was) but oh well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005
Hunter can has make wolfpup chow now? ^_^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mira
Om nom nom. :D

My formatting is awful, but it's post #454.

Inziladun 05-22-2010 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur (Post 630769)
People need to stop friggin' requesting to be modkilled. Takes a lot of the fun right out of the game. Anyway, I'm seein' a lot of suspicion of me being thrown around here. Let's take care of that straight off. I'm the Hunter. I was really hoping someone would pick up on that sooner (like around page 12 where the following gem was) but oh well.

Hm. So you're the Hunter. Well, who do you suspect the most at the moment, and why?

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:11 AM

First of all, Cellie death=boo. :(



I picked up on it, Mira, or at least I considered it as a possibility. (Although the fact that you responded when I said wolfpup....hehe.) I figured it was either you or Lottie, because she was acting strange before and I thought she could have been gifted. Why do you think you were my "top suspect" yesterDay? And, of course, as you've probably already guessed, all my hunter hints were intended to make me the target instead of the real hunter so we could avoid unnecessary carnage in the Night. Hence my mention of suicide earlier in the game. You know me; I'm willing to put my little brains in front of a gifted's if needed, and did.

But now, now, because of so many people bloody dropping out, we're in deep trouble. Here's a handy dandy list for you....

Innocent
Mira
Sally


Probably not a wolf
Paranoia

Possibly a wolf
Lottie
Dun


My guess, now that I know that Mira is the hunter, is actually Lottie. I know, I know, flip flop of the century, but I'm getting role-holding vibes from her, and there's only one role left, after all. I'm just sayin'.



I think this is the Day to implement my earlier plan. Mira, who are you hunting?

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:14 AM

K, so here's what I want from the village. Everyone's top two -repeat, two- suspects. Go! ^_^

Keeper of Dol Guldur 05-22-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 630779)
I picked up on it, Mira, or at least I considered it as a possibility. (Although the fact that you responded when I said wolfpup....hehe.)

I think this is the Day to implement my earlier plan. Mira, who are you hunting?

Nickname, can't help it. Blame Fea. :p

I have yet to decide who I'm hunting this cycle. Partially because I haven't slept properly in two days and partially because I was hoping for some input from you fine people.

I have literally just sat here staring at this post for the past five minutes trying to think of something else to say. For the love of snickerdoodles, someone either bash me over the head with something or get me some caffeine.

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630753)
I was afraid Cel would be the target. It only made sense.

Now is the time for our Hunter to come forth.

There's only one of us who is sure of who the wolf is. I think it's likely the wolves have already used their double-kill but you're right: this is the time for attention to detail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630754)
To clarify, they likely used their double-kill when going after Nerwen; but if that isn't the case and the wolf gets away toDay, it is indeed the end of the line.



Okay, that's the weirdest thing ever. I quoted Paranoia but when I came to add to the post it had quotes from Dun. *is creeped upon*



Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia
Okay, I'd like to kick off the day by noting we need to be cautious; if the wolves haven't used their extra kill yet this is technically lylo; do not vote unless you are absolutely proof positive that your lynch target is a wolf. One wrong vote from a townie won't sink us; two will.

Well. Let's get down to business.

There is no "proof positive" that someone is a wolf, not without our seer. We can make good cases against someone but we can't prove they're a wolf. This is just a weird post in general to me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paranoia
Also Lylo is Lynch or Lose. It's the general principle behind when the town must lynch properly or lose.

We call it endgame here, but yes, we need to be very careful with our votes.


EDIT: x'd with Mira

Inziladun 05-22-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur (Post 630781)
I have yet to decide who I'm hunting this cycle. Partially because I haven't slept properly in two days and partially because I was hoping for some input from you fine people.

Here's a question: do you still have your double-hunt? If so, I would say you should hunt Para and Sally. I think both are more likely to be wolves than Lottie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur (Post 630781)
For the love of snickerdoodles, someone either bash me over the head with something or get me some caffeine.

I just had a cup of Donut Shop Coffee from a Keurig single-cup brewer. Would you like some? ;)

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper of Dol Guldur (Post 630781)
Nickname, can't help it. Blame Fea. :p

I have yet to decide who I'm hunting this cycle. Partially because I haven't slept properly in two days and partially because I was hoping for some input from you fine people.

I have literally just sat here staring at this post for the past five minutes trying to think of something else to say. For the love of snickerdoodles, someone either bash me over the head with something or get me some caffeine.

Hehe I noticed. I like it, too, which is why I've kind of stolen it. Well, not stolen it, but yeah. *pets you and your tired self....and Fea, of course*

Input is good! Obviously I don't want you hunting me, as I know I'm innocent and....well, that'd be pretty rotten of you after I tried to save your behind. ;)

Do you think Shasta would put three newbies in a pack? I think it'd be pretty awful (for them, not of him necessarily) but I've considered it such a non-reality I'm worried I'll let wolfanoia off too easily.

I'll have to look at Lottie to decide what I think she is. My instinct before said she had a role, but at the same time I can't just go on that, much as I'd like to. I'd still like to have her as a safety hunt (no offense, darling) but I'll look her over later toDay and give my final opinion on the matter.

Obviously if those two aren't wolves Dun must be, and I know he's sneaky so he's definitely a hunt just for safety in my opinion. That and it's harder than heck to trace him so if he is the wolf I'd likely not know it. Stinkin' clever kids. :p



So basically we can either try to lynch the wolf toDay and have a 1/4 shot, or we can lynch Mira (sorry, precious) and have a 50/50 shot of her taking the wolf with her. Makes sense, yes? Good maths, yes? I thought so! ^_^



EDIT: x'd with Dun

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 630784)
Here's a question: do you still have your double-hunt? If so, I would say you should hunt Para and Sally. I think both are more likely to be wolves than Lottie.

Oh, crap. I just assumed she did. That could....oh, crap, this could suck....



K, off to look at....erm, somebody. :p

satansaloser2005 05-22-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 630765)
Question it all you like; it's still true. I have ways of knowing...

Really, though, she's innocent. I wouldn't be surprised if she were the Hunter - but even if she's not, and Mira is (either you or Noia would have revealed by now, and I know I'm not) she's not a wolf. Trust me on this one. Sally's actually incredibly easy to read, once you figure out her little secrets. ;) Even easier than you, Zil.

EDIT: xed with Noia


Ah, yes, yes I am. When I want to be. ^_^


Lottie, who do you suspect most? Oh, Paranoia and Dun? See, I'm good at math!


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