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I held the banner that did not show
I died in lands i did not know
I passed through mountains, went very low

who am I?

Are you Halbarad?

sure why not!

I began in darkness, then lost laughter.
I lost sadness sometime after.
One to illness, one to cleft,
losing both what had I left?

Who am I?

turin turambar?oh boy...been a while since ive read this. isnt hurin shackeled (sp) onto a cleft on morgoths mountain, and he lost his sister lalaith (translates to laughed i think) to the dark plague or something?

Turin is the answer I was looking for. Just to clarify: Lalaith, meaning laughter, was the sister whom he lost to illness, and Nienor, 'mourning' was his other sister, who cast herself into the Teiglin. So he lost both laughter and sadness.

Great friend of man i was
i gave them land, for allegiance
i charged towards the end
all my bones broken
i was lifted to the sky

who am I?

Fingolfin?

Gil-Galad?

Salix is correct!!1

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lord of golden leaves i was
had a half a city named after me
fought aganest the bearers
yet stilled i failed and passed to the lady

As usual, no clue. Celeborn? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

I'm thinking Samwise's guess is good, but maybe its from the Silmarillion, Unfortunately I don't have that book right now. so for anyone else, if its not celeborn, think about the trees.
Unless I'm totally off
Sry, if I'm wrong, have fun
BYE!!! Merry Christmas!

Amroth?

You know me finwe, explanation...

Perhaps the answer is Lorien the Maia. He had part of Lothlorien named after him; the 'dream' part at least. And his spouse was Este, who is perhaps the lady mentioned in the last stanza. I admit that Lorien doesn't really fit the rest of the verse, but I thought perhaps...

and when I say Lorien the Maia, of course I mean Lorien the Vala (I really kicked myself over this one)

you could've said Irmo, since Lorien was a place in Valinor, and LothLorien wasn't really a city, more a forest, but finwe is correct and i like a explanation of how you got it...

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I am the heir
I come in time of need
My father and mother both killed
in the forests green
I come to reclaim the throne
From which the stunted took
I killed the 3 C's in the 2nd of the 3rd

who am i?

Okay I'm guessing Aragorn. My reasons are:

I am the heir - he's the heir of Gondor and the race of Numenor(sp).

I come in time of need - came to Gondor during the battle of Pellenor fields, and saved both Gondor and all Middle earth from Mordor.

My father and mother both killed
in the forests green - His parents died when they were in the north (not in Gondor)

I come to reclaim the throne
From which the stunted took -I'm thinking these are the orcs of Mordor.

I killed the 3 C's in the 2nd of the 3rd - This one I'm not sure about. But maybe its the 2nd battle of the 3rd age or something.
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My guess is Dior, son of Beren and Luthien, because he killed Celegorm, Curufin and Caranthir( 3 C's).

My guess would be Dior, Thingol's heir.
My reasons are as follows:
- Dior IS (Thingol's) heir.
- He comes after Thingol's death, so somehow the realm of Doriath needed a new ruler.
- Dior's father Beren was mortally wounded by Carcharoth in the green forest of Doriath, his wife Lúthien chose to became mortal and griefed to death, so maybe one can consider her as being "dead" in Middle-Earth, killed also by Carcharoth. (okay I admit this is the weak point.)
- Dior comes to Doriath in order to reclaim his grandfather's throne taken by the Dwarves (stunted people).
- Dior killed the Three C's (Celegorm, Caranthir and Curufin) in the second of the three great downfalls (Nargothrond, Doriath, Gondolin) of the First Age.
Greetings,
EfR

Thorongil got it first, but elrond explained it almost, the 2nd of the 3rd meant the 2nd kin slaying of the 3 kinslayings (teleri of avallone, doriath, sirion)and beren and luthien were both killed in ossriand by Sons or orcs, don't remeber. well thorongil or elrodn may anwser, whoever gets here first

I beg to differ, Gil-galad. Beren and Luthien were not killed (unless it is stated otherwise in something more canonical than the Sil). They simply... died.

Well here I am. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Powerful I am,
Though I am no Lord.
My realm is the water,
but it is not flowing,
still it reaches everywhere.

Greetings,
EfR

Edit: I see now that there were some unclear points about the deaths of Beren and Lúthien. I would agree with the fact that Lúthien died of herself. I hope my riddle will be accepted, otherwise I will delete it.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:35 PM January 10, 2004: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ]

I don't know if your answer is acceptable, but I'll have a go at your riddle. I guess Ulmo, though I have a feeling it's more complex than that.

Well it is NOT Ulmo. But on the other hand, my riddle is not THAT complicated. I would also like to see your reasons for choosing this or that person, otherwise I can't be sure if my riddle was understood. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Greetings,
EfR

Cirdan

Powerful I am-had many ships in his order
Though I am no Lord-wasn't really a king, only a leader
My realm is the water-made boats and sailed them
but it is not flowingbuilt boats on land
still it reaches everywhere-land/water reaches everywhere

Nice work Gil-galad, but I am afraid this is not the answer. The clue "I am not a Lord" doesn't apply to Cirdan, as he was "The Lord of the Havens".
Extra hint: Think about what you can be if you aren't a Lord!
Greetings,
EfR

Sounds like some sort of Lady of Rain, but I can't find anyone answering that description.

Uinen, spouse of Osse?

And Uinen it is.
She was of course no Lord but very powerful as a Maia. Her realm was the water of all the seas (which are not flowing, in opposition to rivers and streams), and her hair was said to lie spread through all waters under sky.
Please proceed Lalaith.
Greetings,
EfR

Ok, I'm new to this, here goes:

My nephew's scorn was quite unearned,
my heart was true, my hall was burned.

I am guessing wildly:
Turgon's "hall" Gondolin was burned (<>destroyed) because of the unjustified scorn of his nephew, Maeglin.

No, that's not it.

LOL....no clue as usual, as you're about to be able to tell:

Mandos?

Sorry!