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mhagain 12-18-2006 03:26 PM

OK, if we're making up nonsenses it's hint time.

This is not a Rings character, but he was around during the 3rd age.

The Might 12-18-2006 03:37 PM

Gildor Inglorion?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-18-2006 03:41 PM

Maglor? :p He stayed there and they never saw him again, probably, he might have been around in the 3rd.

mhagain 12-18-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc
Maglor? :p He stayed there and they never saw him again, probably, he might have been around in the 3rd.

Take a bow, and take the floor. :cool:

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 05:31 AM

Really? Oh, great... so... here goes the riddle:

High Elves, High Kings
asked for me.
What might or might
not have come back
over the Sea?
With seven stars,
with one of stones,
twice he had me.

The Might 12-19-2006 06:57 AM

the Silmaril?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 09:21 AM

Nope.

Rune Son of Bjarne 12-19-2006 10:45 AM

For some reason it got me thinking of Arwen. . .I don't really know why.

The Might 12-19-2006 10:59 AM

Elendilmir

Valier 12-19-2006 11:03 AM

Eärendil?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 11:07 AM

No. Think of the last line, and the part of

What might or might
not have come back
over the sea?

it has its meaning as well.

The Might 12-19-2006 11:10 AM

Anduril perhaps?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 11:23 AM

No, no and no. Read it carefully and mind what I said before. Anduril certainly is not something

What might or might
not have come back
over the sea

mhagain 12-19-2006 01:03 PM

I think Glorfindel?

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-19-2006 01:09 PM

Again, not. I suggest everyone, read carefully the riddle. It has three parts, in general, so try to find out that the thing you guess fits well with every one of them. If you want more hints, ask.

High Elves, High Kings
asked for me.

What might or might
not have come back
over the Sea?

With seven stars,
with one of stones,
twice he had me.

The Might 12-19-2006 03:53 PM

Gandalf?

Gil-Galad 12-19-2006 07:17 PM

I'm thinking the Palantir now

and Orome too must mostly Palantir

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-20-2006 06:37 AM

No, still not right.
More guesses or should I give you a hint?

The Might 12-20-2006 07:07 AM

the Elessar perhaps

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-20-2006 07:30 AM

Very good!
 
You are right! It's the Elessar. It is nice that the two of us start ruling this forum as well... but when you weren't watching, someone else stole the first one from us. Okay, now seriously. For those of you who might be confused, the riddle refers to the Elessar as a thing, which was of interest for both the Kings of Edain and the High Elves (in UT, it is said that Elessar was made in Gondolin and went to Elwing and Eärendil, then there is a story of Galadriel wishing the Elessar were there). In UT there are two versions of how it came to Aragorn, one of them is that it was the original Elessar brought back from the Undying lands (where it was left by Eärendil), the other is that this Elessar is a different one made by Celebrimbor for Galadriel. And the last verses refer to Aragorn, as he had Elessar twice: he possessed the stone, and Elessar, of course, was his name by then.

TM it's your turn now.

The Might 12-20-2006 01:34 PM

I thought a lot about the Elendilmir in the beginning, since it was also made twice, and then I remembered the same is true about the Elendilmir
anyway, next riddle:

Graced by the touch of three ladies hands

Beneath hills I lie beyond mortal lands

By pride and greed my master was devoured,

My brother came to rest in the West-Tower.

The Might 12-29-2006 10:19 AM

no takers ???

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-29-2006 10:55 AM

If the West-Tower were not there, I'd say Túrin Turambar.

...or had the three ladies not been there, I'd say twenty more completely different things :D

The Might 12-29-2006 11:07 AM

nope, not Turin...

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-31-2006 05:22 AM

Mmm, I don't know if anyone tried to solve this, but I spent some time on it now and I must say that am a quite perplex. Could you provide a little hint, please?

The Might 12-31-2006 05:25 AM

it is an obejct, not a person

and I know it's hard :D

Wishmaster 12-31-2006 09:46 AM

West Tower could be Annuminas and beyond mortal lands could be Tower of Avallone... :rolleyes: Stone of Annuminas..*is very confused now*

Legate of Amon Lanc 12-31-2006 09:53 AM

I supposed it might be an object rather than a character when the Turin idea failed ;) I have thought about the Silmarilli, but I'm not sure. The hills don't fit.

The Might 12-31-2006 10:52 AM

sorry, but both answers are wrong :p

Gil-Galad 01-01-2007 03:47 PM

Beren perhaps?


a hint would be nice

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-01-2007 04:58 PM

TM, please, I hope it is not the Elendilmir!!!

The Might 01-01-2007 05:23 PM

lol....Gil-Galad, I doubt I would call Beren an object

not, not the Elendilmir

Gil-Galad 01-01-2007 08:51 PM

i so got to read more


it sounds like one of the rings of power...but which one... perhaps Galadriels ring... but then again the greed sounds more of a Dwarven one...

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-02-2007 07:07 AM

Arkenstone came up to my mind, but it has no "brothers" as far as I know.
wait... Orcrist? But no, I guess if you gave us one more little hint, it'd be fine ;)

The Might 01-02-2007 10:02 AM

it is not a ring...
and it is similar to the Elendilmir as far as origin is concerned

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-02-2007 01:27 PM

A-hah, I think I finally got it! Well, that was some riddle, TM!

The "three ladies" are the Three Ruling Queens of Númenor,
"beneath hills beyond mortal lands" is on the shores of Aman under mountains in the Caves of the Forgotten, where
"the master who was devoured by greed and power", Ar-Pharazon, lies along with all his men till the Last Battle and the Judgement Day.
The "brother" is the sceptre of Annúminas (the West-Tower) which was made to replace the lost Sceptre of Númenor for the Arnorian kings.

Thus, Sceptre of Númenor is the answer.

The Might 01-02-2007 01:33 PM

yes :)

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-03-2007 11:02 AM

Something to think about... I hope
 
I'm the last,
though there's one yet after me.
I know the river
But I don't know about sea.
Wicked hearts and arms of stone I knew
as well as little folk in ancient time
a wind from far and barren lands in view
With three legs; I can never move or die.

The Might 01-03-2007 12:00 PM

GREAT riddle Legate

I'd say Methedras

Legate of Amon Lanc 01-03-2007 02:49 PM

Thanks very much :) A praise from riddler of your caliber is really flattering.
Unfortunately, I have to inform you that Methedras is not the right answer :cool: Although, it was a very good attempt, it would almost fit, but there is something which fits even more.


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